AEM Intake For Ralliart!

[2muchboost]

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So I picked up my car today from AEM in Hawthorne, CA. They are using my car to develop an intake system similar to the AEM intake for the X.



They had my car for one week and were kind enough to set me up with a rental car and when I got my car back today it was washed and fueled up. {thumbup}

Now that they got all the measurements it will take 2-3 months to finish up the intake.
From what I was told it will be similar to the one for the X but with a few improvements. :D

Good news is in about 3 months there will be a new low key/stealth Intake for our Ralliarts!

[MikeW-RRE]

I'd rather have the hot air evacuated out from under the hood. But if a snorkel was there, it would have to stick up pretty high to go from the current negative pressure design to a positive pressue vent. The stock one there is designed to get air out from under the hood.

Mike W

[rgwinn]

Looks good, do you have the small battery kit installed?

[2muchboost]

I'd rather have the hot air evacuated out from under the hood. But if a snorkel was there, it would have to stick up pretty high to go from the current negative pressure design to a positive pressue vent. The stock one there is designed to get air out from under the hood.

Mike W

Very good point Mike! I will pass this on to Ken.

Ill let Ken know that the snorkel needs to be at least 7 inches high and made of carbon fiber for extra JDM points! lol

[2muchboost]

Looks good, do you have the small battery kit installed?

The picture i posted is the AEM intake on a X, just to give everyone an idea as to what it will look like on the Ralliart.

[rgwinn]

The picture i posted is the AEM intake on a X, just to give everyone an idea as to what it will look like on the Ralliart.

Thanks, I just know that the Battery on my Sportback would be in the way.

[Exyia]

I'd rather have the hot air evacuated out from under the hood. But if a snorkel was there, it would have to stick up pretty high to go from the current negative pressure design to a positive pressue vent. The stock one there is designed to get air out from under the hood.

Mike W

definitely agree

I remember first thing that happened when I drove off with my Ralliart was that the windshield fogged from the heat vented from the hood. They're definitely there to expel hot air, not intake

[Ralliart23]

sucks we would need to buy a small battery kit or relocate it. they hsould make it like the stock airbox so that it works around the battery

[2muchboost]

Who said anything about a battery relocation? This AEM kit will be a direct replacement of the factory intake and will not need a small battery. :)

[rgwinn]

Who said anything about a battery relocation? This AEM kit will be a direct replacement of the factory intake and will not need a small battery. :)

Unless that airbox is smaller for the RA I don't see how it would fit with the stock battery?

[2muchboost]

Unless that airbox is smaller for the RA I don't see how it would fit with the stock battery?


Yeah, the box for the ralliart will be smaller allowing you to keep the factory battery. :)

[Ralliart23]

well thats awesome :)

[rgwinn]

That should be very cool

[Jackal]

Thank god for that. I need the bigger battery for starting at -40 and to run the juice to both my car audio amps.
Is there a way they could use the hood scoop? I mean even if we had to change to a bigger or different one this would keep it back behind the battery and a scoop that was taller on top of the hood not underneath would give it a more aggressive look and actually make our scoop functional. Imagine that!

[2muchboost]

The intake is a for sure thing and is being developed now.. The hood scoop idea was just something that Ken was talking to me about, but I doubt it will happen.
The AEM Intake will be a boxed unit like the one for the X, and sit behind our stock battery. So no need for a mini battery or battery relocation. :)

[zeRep85]

Nice!

I actually submitted my application to AEM but i think i was a lil too modded for them! haha

:)

[evil03]

i have been talking to AEM since 2009 about a intake for the RA... they just are very picky about how stock the RA is... i guess they just want BONE stock cars.... lame..... haha

[TheBlackBeast]

Good news - glad to see aem is finally developing one!

[korytirk]

In short, it is very crucial to cross check the device before putting it to work. This is because they come in different versions sizes and color.

k&n cold air intake (http://www.airintakeandfilter.com/)


My mechanic owned a AEM cold air intake system,Im going with a airaid

[ralli_art_2010]

The intake is a for sure thing and is being developed now.. The hood scoop idea was just something that Ken was talking to me about, but I doubt it will happen.
The AEM Intake will be a boxed unit like the one for the X, and sit behind our stock battery. So no need for a mini battery or battery relocation. :)

Any idea on how long this will take?

[Jackal]

Still waiting and will be buying one once available.

[2muchboost]

I cant wait! Hopefully soon....

[ralli_art_2010]

any updates on when they will put them into production?

[evil03]

guys dont hold your breaths... AEM cant hold there words.... now since JP is all jacked up and parts under water... mitsu will be slow on import for the next 3 to 5 years... they might just hold off production... because the market is soft...

[Cesarn2928]

:( hope not. but yeh this might happen...
i was thinkin bout doing a custome one

[Mia_Ra]

:( hope not. but yeh this might happen...
i was thinkin bout doing a custome one

I think thats the best way to go, i really don't feel like paying extra to move the battery to the trunk, might end up fabbing one up. The Injen is the only legit cold air that i believe doesn't require a small bat, but i heard it sits right infront of the SST cooler, so that's not any good down here with this heat!

[2muchboost]

I think thats the best way to go, i really don't feel like paying extra to move the battery to the trunk, might end up fabbing one up. The Injen is the only legit cold air that i believe doesn't require a small bat, but i heard it sits right infront of the SST cooler, so that's not any good down here with this heat!

Not only that but if it sits in front of the sst cooler then thats blocking fresh air from getting to the cooler!

[2muchboost]

UPDATE:
Alright.... My car was at AEM for 2 weeks while they were finishing everything up. There ended up being a problem with the MAF housing where the measurements were off by some stupid small amount. Enough to where AEM did not feel comfortable releasing the intake that way.
So the new part finally came in and I dropped off my car yesterday for the final fitment.
They called me today and said the intake is ready to go!

I will be picking up the car first thing tomorrow morning and I will post pictures ASAP!
The guys at AEM sounded pretty excited about the car. There exact words were "This intake came out pretty bad ass!"

Cant wait! :D

[MikeW-RRE]

Stop by with the car sometime soon and let me log it.

Mike W

[2muchboost]

Stop by with the car sometime soon and let me log it.

Mike W

You got it Mike. Im thinking the car will lean out like the X's do with the AEM intake. Ill see if I can stop by sometime this week.

In the mean time, im getting all my parts together for one big install so then I can come in for a tune. :D

[BravoZero]

Hmm... definitely keep us posted on this.

[Ralliart23]

when will this be available for the public to buy?

[2muchboost]

when will this be available for the public to buy?

My guess is within the next few months... ll try to get a more accurate release date from AEM tomorrow.

[MikeW-RRE]

The RalliArt is already lean to start with so we dont want any leaner. Any day this week in the evening after traffic cools down some is fine.

Mike W

[sstevojr]

Really? My RA logs in the 9's for AFR during WOT (Prosport that logs 10-20; when WOT goes straight to 10, meaning off the chart) even after getting tuned by Scott. Wait do you mean just regular driving around, cuz yeah, it cruises at 14.7...?

[2muchboost]

Alright everyone! Finally got the intake in!!
Its been a long wait but I couldn't be happier. The intake is BEAUTIFUL! No open element filter exposed so its pretty low key. {thumbup}

I cant thank Ken & everyone at AEM enough for everything. We ran into a few bumps in the road but they always kept me informed and took great care of me.

As for release date and price this is what I was told. "If everything goes well we will have this on the shelves in about a month" Price is still being discussed so they didn't tell me anything.

On to the pictures!
I took some quick snaps when I got home. ill try and get some better ones later on.
Enjoy:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b117/superman83199/DSC03139.jpg
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[2muchboost]

4 picture rule IS LAME!!!
More pics

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b117/superman83199/DSC03143.jpg
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[Cesarn2928]

i like it..!! but im diggin makin the AEM transparent! ;) lol if it goes in production im customizing! :D also if the border has a rubber protection thing ima make it red :D

[2muchboost]

i like it..!! but im diggin makin the AEM transparent! ;) lol if it goes in production im customizing! :D also if the border has a rubber protection thing ima make it red :D

I like your ideas!! Ill pass the word to Ken @ AEM. Maybe they will offer a "Clear top" option!?!?!? :D

[Cesarn2928]

I like your ideas!! Ill pass the word to Ken @ AEM. Maybe they will offer a "Clear top" option!?!?!? :D

thank u!

that be cool ;)

[BravoZero]

Wow, that looks great! What is the gauge for though? Any possiblility of getting a shot of the inside of the airbox?

[MTZL]

Looks good, any performance gain?
Carb legal? What kinda filter in that box?
So the guage is to see if its clean vs dirty?

[ralli_kid]

Intake is very nice. Saw it in person yesterday at the meet. Anthony did you all ready tell them the limited supply on them?

[Mkid]

Hows the sound? Can you hear the turbo and BPV a lot more then your typical panel filter setup?

[BravoZero]

Hows the sound? Can you hear the turbo and BPV a lot more then your typical panel filter setup?

I would imagine since it's more closed-in, you won't hear them as much.

[2muchboost]

Wow, that looks great! What is the gauge for though? Any possiblility of getting a shot of the inside of the airbox?

I havent had time to open up the intake and get pics but i will asap!
That gauge you see measure how dirt the filter is. It has a vacuum hose hooked up to it and as vacuum drops the the gauge moves to tell you when its dirty. Pretty damn cool if you ask me!

[2muchboost]

Looks good, any performance gain?
Carb legal? What kinda filter in that box?
So the guage is to see if its clean vs dirty?

Ill be posting up the dyno sheet very soon.. :)
It comes with a custom AEM dryflow intake filter.
Yes the gauge tells you when the filter is dirty! :D

[2muchboost]

Hows the sound? Can you hear the turbo and BPV a lot more then your typical panel filter setup?

Change in sound:
You can hear the turbo spool up a little louder now. No change in BOV sound.
Car definitely pulls a little harder and feels a little smoother.

[BravoZero]

Change in sound:
You can hear the turbo spool up a little louder now. No change in BOV sound.
Car definitely pulls a little harder and feels a little smoother.

I want one...

[2muchboost]

I want one...

Yeah im really happy with the intake. Im pretty sure it doesnt make as much power as the other open element intakes on the market but ill give up a few HP/TQ to have a good looking low key intake any day! :D

[BravoZero]

Not only that... it looks beast! Looks like it was included with the car, as opposed to an open filter.

[2muchboost]

Alright,
Here are the #'s!
Car was dynoed stock except for Ultimate Racing Axel Back, HKS BOV & HKS Drop In Filter.


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b117/superman83199/AEMDYNO.png

[BravoZero]

Not too shabby, nice!

Seems like power and torque are lost when not in boost, but once it kicks in you definitely see the gains.

[2muchboost]

Not too shabby, nice!

Seems like power and torque are lost when not in boost, but once it kicks in you definitely see the gains.

Thats what I was thinking.
Im totally happy with this Intake!
Cant wait to get the rest of my parts on and get tunned :D

[BravoZero]

Thats what I was thinking.
Im totally happy with this Intake!
Cant wait to get the rest of my parts on and get tunned :D

I think once you get more parts installed and get a tune, you'll gain that low end power back at least.

[Ralli]

When will this be available to the public? I just emailed them about it and they said they dont have anything like this for our cars, I just emailed them back with pics. Pretty sad sales does'nt know anything about this.

[Jackal]

Ok another one of things Iwanna get. Sign me up.

[2muchboost]

Sorry everyone! Had a crazy week. I just snapped a few cell phone pics so you could see the inside.
I freaking love this intake!
Im wondering if there will be any benefit to running with the lid off at the track?

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b117/superman83199/IMG_20110519_1539531.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b117/superman83199/IMG_20110519_154014.jpg

[BravoZero]

Nice... this might be on my "to get" list very soon.

[Ralli]

I was wondering if you'd answer my question if you know when they'll be available I have the money and want to pull the trigger NOW but AEM is playing dumb when I ask them about it.

[caRalliArt]

i am exactly the same.id love to get one but have been waiting forever

[ralli_art_2010]

Any estimate on cost? Looks amazing and im ready to get one!!

[MTZL]

AEM should've use the open top cone filter. The one in the pic has the plastic on top of the cone.

If it is has CARB legal sticker, I will start putting budget aside for it.
If no CARB sticker, no can do, the long arm of the law says no.

[BravoZero]

As far as I know, all AEM intakes are CARB legal. This one shouldn't be any different.

[MTZL]

As far as I know, all AEM intakes are CARB legal. This one shouldn't be any different.

Not all of em. I remember on my K20 Civic AEM CAI wasnt CARB legal.
I was going to peel the sticker off another AEM intake that had the sticker from my previous D16 motor AEM CAI. lol. :D

[Cesarn2928]

when is this goin to be for production

[Ralli]

when is this goin to be for production

Ive asked that here twice now, and to AEM twice. Im guessing it is'nt.

[Ralliart23]

its going to come out guys, do you think a reputable company like aem is going to go through all that r&d and trouble just to give one guy an intake and leave all the possible revenues from an intake-thirsty market untapped? .... i don't think so. just be patient, it will come, and it will be worth every minute of the wait.

[Exyia]

seriously production takes time...those expecting this in-stock and ready for sale the day after pictures are just being unrealistic...

[Ralli]

When you contact the company several times and they dont know what you're talking about until you show them pictures of their own product you start to wonder just how "reputable" they really are, lol (and yes I know how long they've been around, please dont feel the need to "school" me, lmao) and its not like they were trying to keep something secret I told them I had read all about it (though I never mentioned where just incase this was suppose to have been kept secret). And I've worked for companies who produce products, once you fork out that first public one, you're usually ready to roll (or better be because the public does NOT wait) because at that point you've already done all the behind the scenes stuff. It just seems like someone at AEM is dropping the ball by the time it does hit the market all the buzz will have died and people will have figured out alternatives.

[slyy]

When you contact the company several times and they dont know what you're talking about until you show them pictures of their own product you start to wonder just how "reputable" they really are, lol (and yes I know how long they've been around, please dont feel the need to "school" me, lmao) and its not like they were trying to keep something secret I told them I had read all about it (though I never mentioned where just incase this was suppose to have been kept secret). And I've worked for companies who produce products, once you fork out that first public one, you're usually ready to roll (or better be because the public does NOT wait) because at that point you've already done all the behind the scenes stuff. It just seems like someone at AEM is dropping the ball by the time it does hit the market all the buzz will have died and people will have figured out alternatives.


What your saying does make sense. I think They did release this product to gain interest and for potential buyers to be aware of the product.

I spoke to an AEM distributor here in Canada and was told it should be late this month or early July for the official release.

From the pictures; you can obviously tell that they are ready for launch.

At the same time, have you guys seen the Injen short ram for the ralliarts?
Disgusting....

http://evosoulselect.com/review/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/259057_349015714955_71150244955_1319000_2199786_o-1024x768.jpg

[wwralliart77]

Any updates on this?!

[Ralliart23]

Any updates on this?!

^^^^^^^^^^^^+1

[kenpora]

I am interested as well just wish it didn't require a tune with it.

[ElvisT]

I think thats the best way to go, i really don't feel like paying extra to move the battery to the trunk, might end up fabbing one up. The Injen is the only legit cold air that i believe doesn't require a small bat, but i heard it sits right infront of the SST cooler, so that's not any good down here with this heat!

This is the Takeda by AFE, it's a good choice for guys with HID lights on the Ralliart because it sits more towards the middle of the engine bay.

[TrailBrake]

Completely off-topic, but good to see a posting from another RA owner in the GTA ;)

[Ralliart23]

Completely off-topic, but good to see a posting from another RA owner in the GTA ;)

gta ftw!!!!!!!!!

[TrailBrake]

We need a Canadian forum on here!

[Jackal]

Would be nice as our issues are completely different than in California etc. Just saying!

[TrailBrake]

Would be nice to have some threads going on cold weather issues or winter track days.

As well Canadian dealer/repair shop or part supplier discussion would be nice. The exchange rate is or favour, but it would be nice to source some things more locally if possible.

That, and talk about local gatherings wouldn't go a miss.

There is one local club that has an active thread elsewhere, but it seems to be hijacked by GTS and Evo owners.

[slyy]

I am interested as well just wish it didn't require a tune with it.

From what i heard, there is no tune required for the AEM intake.

That would be awesome!

Anyways, i have no clue when it's going to be released. I keep hearing dates her and there. Sigh, i hope it comes out soon...

[Exyia]

most intakes that "don't require a tune" are pretty mediocre overall :rolleyes:

[BravoZero]

most intakes that "don't require a tune" are pretty mediocre overall :rolleyes:

+1.

That just means that you're paying for something that looks good and doesn't have much of a functional use. You might as well stick with a K&N filter and the stock airbox.

[p1llar]

http://www.aemintakes.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=21-698C

[Don@SCMitsu]

http://www.aemintakes.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=21-698C

I will defiantly get these in stock at SCM.

[BravoZero]

Good god, that is an expensive intake. Not only that, it looks complicated as hell to install. Looks great, I'll give it that, but I'm not spending $300+ on an intake that may or may not require a tune, and if not, only gives you about 16 horsepower and 23 ft-lb of torque, ESTIMATED. Plus, this might cause some serious issues if you're running the GST basemap.

[Scarab23]

Good god, that is an expensive intake. Not only that, it looks complicated as hell to install. Looks great, I'll give it that, but I'm not spending $300+ on an intake that may or may not require a tune, and if not, only gives you about 16 horsepower and 23 ft-lb of torque, ESTIMATED. Plus, this might cause some serious issues if you're running the GST basemap.

where did you see the price i couldn't find it?

[Don@SCMitsu]

Good god, that is an expensive intake. Not only that, it looks complicated as hell to install. Looks great, I'll give it that, but I'm not spending $300+ on an intake that may or may not require a tune, and if not, only gives you about 16 horsepower and 23 ft-lb of torque, ESTIMATED. Plus, this might cause some serious issues if you're running the GST basemap.

Its about the same price as the evo x intake. We sell them for 290, not sure how much the RA intake will be when we sell it, i'll know more on monday

http://www.autoanything.com/air-intakes/77A2052A3771064.aspx?kc=ffsku

[BravoZero]

where did you see the price i couldn't find it?

If you go to their online store, it lists for about $320.

[RalliNurse]

I still don't think spiting $300 for an intake for est of 16 hp gain justifies it...

[hotkupa]

I dont think $300 is a lot for 16 hp. I changed cams on my mustang for $1000+ and got 17hp. That of course if its really 16 hp. BTW o saw it on some web page for $248.

[RalliTart00]

Found this off of AEM's website: ultaRev $229.00 plus free shipping http://www.ultrarev.com/aem/ :D

[BravoZero]

I still don't think spiting $300 for an intake for est of 16 hp gain justifies it...

I agree. Bryan's running his RA at about 400hp with the stock exhaust and stock intake, I believe. He might have an aftermarket filter, but still stock assembly.

Not only that... but the AEM intake isn't even 50-state legal according to the product page.

[Exyia]

I agree. Bryan's running his RA at about 400hp with the stock exhaust and stock intake, I believe. He might have an aftermarket filter, but still stock assembly.

Not only that... but the AEM intake isn't even 50-state legal according to the product page.

Bryan's running an AEM intake

yet he can't run the enclosed box design of it because of the small battery, so right now it's just a coned pipe like any other. I imagine half the reason he's using it is because of fitment with the (grumble)...small battery location (grumble grumble grumble grrrr), but not so much the gains

I imagine the AEM without the box is pretty much the same as any other intake. it's just a pipe and a cone filter

[hotkupa]

If someone would just come out with a Turbo Inlet Pipe for RA. That would produce at least 10-12 hp, but it would cost a fraction of what the intake does. I contacted few companies and they all told me "we will look into it".

[razorlab]

If someone would just come out with a Turbo Inlet Pipe for RA. That would produce at least 10-12 hp, but it would cost a fraction of what the intake does. I contacted few companies and they all told me "we will look into it".

I doubt it would make anywhere close to that amount of power. If you took off the second digits on those numbers then I would agree with you.

[hotkupa]

I am new to RA ,however I did a lot of work on 1.8t GTIs and 9-10 Hp gains were not unusual with MUCH SMALLER TURBO AND ENGINE

[razorlab]

The 1.8T's (and vw's in general) are notorious for having crap designed (for flow), or well designed (for noise suppression), depending on how you look at it, intake systems from the factory.

The mitsubishi intake systems actually work pretty darn well for factory, up to a point.

[Exyia]

If someone would just come out with a Turbo Inlet Pipe for RA. That would produce at least 10-12 hp, but it would cost a fraction of what the intake does. I contacted few companies and they all told me "we will look into it".

it's also the problem that the stock RA turbo has no holes to easily bolt on an inlet

Evo X turbo
http://media.photobucket.com/image/evo%20x%20vs%20ra%20turbo/dsm95hybrid/evo_X_red_setup2.jpg

Ralliart turbo: bad picture, couldn't find better off a quick google-images
http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/images/C/Evo_Turbo.png

[slyy]

Just picked up the AEM for $237 :D

We'll see how this turns out.


** bryan

Does the intake really need a tune? I'm getting a tune at Buschur in Ohio and it's a 6 hour drive from Canada.

Just need to know if it was safe to drive it there. I don't have a wideband as of yet... I need to get one soon.

I'm getting stories left and right; saying it doesn't need a tune and others saying it does etc..

[zeRep85]

I am new to RA ,however I did a lot of work on 1.8t GTIs and 9-10 Hp gains were not unusual with MUCH SMALLER TURBO AND ENGINE

HA! Not too long ago I had a turbo inlet pipe for my 1.8t GTI just sitting around! Actually got more $$$ than i paid for it!

[KenAEM]

http://www.aemintakes.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=21-698C

[MTZL]

Any chance for Carb sticker for california folks? :(
Cops here randomly make you open your hood to snoop around.

[Don@SCMitsu]

http://www.aemintakes.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=21-698C

AWESOME! We need some!

[razorlab]

it's also the problem that the stock RA turbo has no holes to easily bolt on an inlet

Evo X turbo
http://media.photobucket.com/image/evo%20x%20vs%20ra%20turbo/dsm95hybrid/evo_X_red_setup2.jpg

Ralliart turbo: bad picture, couldn't find better off a quick google-images
http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/images/C/Evo_Turbo.png

The RA compressor housing is like the Evo 8/9 so it just needs a coupler.

Just picked up the AEM for $237 :D

We'll see how this turns out.


** bryan

Does the intake really need a tune? I'm getting a tune at Buschur in Ohio and it's a 6 hour drive from Canada.

Just need to know if it was safe to drive it there. I don't have a wideband as of yet... I need to get one soon.

I'm getting stories left and right; saying it doesn't need a tune and others saying it does etc..

If the MAF tube is larger then stock then yes it should need a retune. At the very least you should check your fuel trims.

[Ralli]

In regards to if it needs a tune, if you read "Air Intake Testing Summary" you'll find the statement that it does not. Its under the first graph. It says something to the effect that it does it "while maintaining proper fuel trims and the MAF calibration". By the way, I for one, am glad its not 50 state legal 'cause most 50 state legal products end up being totally pussified to meet everyone's standards. And those talking about the fact that the hp improvement is "estimated", what do you expect? They cant dyno every car under every circumstance. $300 is a bit steep but about what you pay for damn near anything nowdays, lol.