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Ralliart23
05-19-2011, 07:42 PM
Alright so, the last 6 months or so of my life has been dedicated to research on 9.5 inch rims on ralliarts. Its been difficult trying to figure out which would fit, which wouldnt, and all the different measurements. On top of all this, all the shops around town were constantly ridiculing me and telling me that i was retarded if i thought they would fit. I had nothing of this because i knew of more than 3 people online that had this kind of setup.

anyways, its understandable why people think they dont fit..... quite simply, they are wide as fuck.

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG-20110517-00038.jpg

Here are the rims i decided to go with, they are xxr 522 18x9.5 38 offset.

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG-20110517-00040.jpg

To make the rim fit, in my case, wasn't as much making the outside fit, it was making the inside fit, especially since i was working with a 38 offset. the run these in the back, a 3mm spacer was needed to clear the control arm. if you dont use a 3mm spacer, the rim is .5mm away from the control arm and the rubber will most definitely hit it when the tire flexes over bumps. Below shown in pink is the space between the rim and the control arm with the spacer, its 3mm. (the wheel is angled like that because its up on the lift and the area where the pink is looks like more than 3mm but the spot where the wheel crosses the arm is a little further back in, it was hard to show it precisely)

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG-20110519-00044.jpg

in the front, i put the rim on without the rubber to see how much clearance i had between the shock and the rim, and it turned out that it was CLOSE haha. with the 38 offset rims, i would say there was 3mm of clearance between the rim and the shock. you can see it where the pink is in the pic below:

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG-20110518-000411copy.jpg

To run this setup i used 235/40/18 falken fk452's. i needed the stretch to gain that extra bit of clearance. this tire size is perfect by the way to anyone looking to run 9.5's.

As for clearance on the outside, the fronts stick out a bit, but they do clear without rub, this is without a spacer as im only running spacers in the rear. I read online on evil03's ralliart wheel fitment guide on evoM (if you dont know what im talking about just google "ralliart wheel fitment" and it should be the first link) that the rears would need a pull to make them fit, so i indeed rented a roller, and pulled the shit out of my rears, i got a good 10-15mm in clearance with the pull to find that it wasnt even necessary in the first place haha. With the 38 offset and a 3mm spacer, the rim would have cleared my rear fender without the pull. I pulled them beforehand because i didnt want to drive home with them rubbing like crazy if they did stick out a lot. NOTE: i am on sportline springs and got a good amount of camber in the rear from the drop which gave me more clearance. with stock suspension i would say that the setup is still easily attainable, but the pull would be necessary to be safe just like evil03's guide says.

now im thinking of putting a 10mm or maybe 15mm if i can afford it, spacer in the back to get more flush as the rim and tire are still considerably inset in the fender.

Ralliart23
05-19-2011, 07:42 PM
here are some pics:

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG_9015.jpg

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG_9012.jpg

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG_8998.jpg

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG_8997.jpg

Ralliart23
05-19-2011, 07:44 PM
and more:

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG_8996.jpg

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG_8995.jpg


SPECIAL THANKS:

thanks to [email protected] and EVIL03 for answering my tedious questions about 9.5 fitment. i had a lot of questions and i appreciate their help, they are great guys.

RalliNurse
05-19-2011, 07:50 PM
Damn...that is some Dark Knight hit...lol..u sure u ain't batman?

But the car look sick though...G/J...

Btw...u live some richy-rich hood...lol...I should move to canada...

Jackal
05-19-2011, 10:33 PM
Looks good!

Ralliart23
05-20-2011, 05:35 AM
thanks guys!

EricS09RA
05-20-2011, 06:04 AM
Nice setup! Looks BEAST!!!

BravoZero
05-20-2011, 07:02 AM
That is awesome! Glad to see with little modification you can make the 9.5 wheels work.

Ralliart23
05-20-2011, 01:30 PM
That is awesome! Glad to see with little modification you can make the 9.5 wheels work.

yeah as long as you have any rim below a 38 offset, so 38 and down, you are good on the inside without spacers. then it just depends if your lowered/which tires/fender pull if its a really low offset, to make them work ;)

wwralliart77
05-21-2011, 01:52 PM
I've also been considering XXR wheels to complete my setup, but I've been a lil iffy on the idea of running a wider wheel such as a 9.5 or 10 since it seems like it's a lot of trial and error to make things work correctly. After seeing your post I became more confident about trying to achieve a setup similar to yours. I'm currently on D2 RS series coilovers so I guess it'll be a lil easier for me since I can adjust height/camber accordingly. So what you had mentioned earlier was that a lower offset wheel would have worked out better for your particular setup. That's a bummer since I noticed that XXR also offers this wheel in a +25 offset.

Ralliart23
05-21-2011, 01:55 PM
yeah if i could do it again, i would do that offset in the back but stay with the 38 in the front, anything more agressive than 38 in the front would be a little too much

swiss_ralliart
05-21-2011, 02:43 PM
damn looks sick! great car!

razorlab
05-21-2011, 02:57 PM
I'll never understand the want for wide wheels but using skinny tires on them.

9.5 wide with 235's? Why?

9.5 should use at least a 255.

zeRep85
05-21-2011, 03:49 PM
I'll never understand the want for wide wheels but using skinny tires on them.

9.5 wide with 235's? Why?

9.5 should use at least a 255.

Yup!

I got 8.5 and running 245 :)

Ralliart23
05-22-2011, 05:32 AM
I'll never understand the want for wide wheels but using skinny tires on them.

9.5 wide with 235's? Why?

9.5 should use at least a 255.

i understand what you are saying brian, and i usually agree with you. for any other rim i would probably be running an 8.5 with this size rubber. the reason i ran the 9.5 is because i was set on getting this rim, and the wider the rim you got, the more concave the spokes were. anything below the 9.5 was virtually level, barely any concavity, and that was a look i was going for.

for example, these are the rims in 8.5
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp137/alca0811/001-5.jpg

and these are them in 9.5
http://www.enjukuracing.com/images/26765_1294655478798_1002653689_30728843_5941180_n. jpg

you can see theres a big difference, and i didnt want to have the less concave version.

jay10ralliart
05-22-2011, 08:44 PM
Ralliart23, you said that you are running 235/30/18s in your post but in th pic I noticed you are actually running 235/40/18. You should fix that before others try buying the wrong size wheel.

ChaseRalli
05-23-2011, 10:17 AM
awesome car man!!!!

id like to see how it looks with the front ring blacked out lol

Ralliart23
05-23-2011, 12:50 PM
Ralliart23, you said that you are running 235/30/18s in your post but in th pic I noticed you are actually running 235/40/18. You should fix that before others try buying the wrong size wheel.

whoops your right! honest mistake, didnt mean to screw anyone up haha

E46byeRAhi
06-05-2011, 04:13 PM
ahh the rears are very flared i see. the concavity of the wheels look great in 9.5. any issues with hard cornering?

SpeedDevil
07-27-2011, 09:52 AM
Thanx to Ralliart23 I got the same setup. XXR 522`s 18x9.5 +38 Chromium Black with Hankook Ventus V12 235/40/18. Running 3mm spacers on the rear and rolled the fenders. Rolling the fenders gave me from 3mm-5mm of pull. Now I`m waiting for my Sportlines to arrive.

wwralliart77
07-27-2011, 11:42 AM
Pic is so small, can't really see how it looks like on the car. Anyway you can resize it?

HokieRalliart
07-27-2011, 07:55 PM
looks great man! My RA is silver and I am looking to go with black rims to get that aggressive look, but damn yours is sweet. Where did you get your roof fins at btw?

Ralliart23
07-27-2011, 08:37 PM
got mine off ebay, seemed it was the only place to get them at the time. i think there are better alternatives out there now, mines kinda cheap. anyone else know vortex generator dealers?

nickvee
02-26-2012, 09:34 PM
how much did it cost to put in all this stuff, if you dont mind me asking?

Scarab23
02-27-2012, 07:59 AM
the rims and tires?

this is my new username, i was ralliart23

Samiralliart
01-27-2013, 10:50 PM
I really want these wheels i was wondering if a +25mm would fit easier?

stEVOlution X
01-30-2013, 06:26 AM
why did you go with such a high offset? why not go with something like a 25, 22, 18, or a 13mm offset?

AlphaKennyBody
01-31-2013, 12:29 PM
why did you go with such a low offset? why not go with something like a 25, 22, 18, or a 13mm offset?

Correction ^ Why did he go with a HIGH offset.

9.5's are Really wid for the Stock RA Body.... on the right size tire which is recommended to be a exact fit of a 255. Stretch is a 245 and Extra Tire is a 265.

Lower offsets will push the wheels completely out of the stock body to look "Mexi-Flush"

9.5 on a 235 tire is less contact patch and a 9 wide tire with a 245. Just saying.


OP, It's not that people say it doesn't fit.... Hell I seen 18x10.5 on a Ralliart...... Hellaflush as fuck but doesn't have the right tire size... a 215 on a 10.5 Rim. Most people prefer REAL wheels... No Rotas, no GAYXR's I mean XXR's lol So there isn't a wid choice of wheels to run the Ralliart on.

If you go to my pics I'm on Works XD9 18x9+30 on 245 NT05's Widest you can get with a proper size tire.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/376556_10150929422720025_1756838491_n.jpg

Here's My car Test Fitting my RPF1's.... 18x9.5+15

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/148307_10151226681755025_520512877_n.jpg

crak
01-31-2013, 12:46 PM
Alpha (or ill fuk any body),

You say 245's on 9's is the best fit. how about putting 255's on 9's? I want some Surface area for autocross and was thinking 255/35/r18 's would do it.

Should i stick with 245 for less sidewall flex or 255's would be better?

zeRep85
01-31-2013, 01:40 PM
Here's My OLD car Test Fitting my RPF1's.... 18x9.5+15




Hahah fixed :)

zeRep

stEVOlution X
01-31-2013, 07:36 PM
yea i meant high offset, not low

AlphaKennyBody
01-31-2013, 09:00 PM
Hahah fixed :)

zeRep

HAHAH Ass! Better see you tomorrow night!

DEEZ8
02-03-2013, 07:28 AM
Alright so, the last 6 months or so of my life has been dedicated to research on 9.5 inch rims on ralliarts. Its been difficult trying to figure out which would fit, which wouldnt, and all the different measurements. On top of all this, all the shops around town were constantly ridiculing me and telling me that i was retarded if i thought they would fit. I had nothing of this because i knew of more than 3 people online that had this kind of setup.

anyways, its understandable why people think they dont fit..... quite simply, they are wide as fuck.

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG-20110517-00038.jpg

Here are the rims i decided to go with, they are xxr 522 18x9.5 38 offset.

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG-20110517-00040.jpg

To make the rim fit, in my case, wasn't as much making the outside fit, it was making the inside fit, especially since i was working with a 38 offset. the run these in the back, a 3mm spacer was needed to clear the control arm. if you dont use a 3mm spacer, the rim is .5mm away from the control arm and the rubber will most definitely hit it when the tire flexes over bumps. Below shown in pink is the space between the rim and the control arm with the spacer, its 3mm. (the wheel is angled like that because its up on the lift and the area where the pink is looks like more than 3mm but the spot where the wheel crosses the arm is a little further back in, it was hard to show it precisely)

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG-20110519-00044.jpg

in the front, i put the rim on without the rubber to see how much clearance i had between the shock and the rim, and it turned out that it was CLOSE haha. with the 38 offset rims, i would say there was 3mm of clearance between the rim and the shock. you can see it where the pink is in the pic below:

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z390/samsimurda/IMG-20110518-000411copy.jpg

To run this setup i used 235/40/18 falken fk452's. i needed the stretch to gain that extra bit of clearance. this tire size is perfect by the way to anyone looking to run 9.5's.

As for clearance on the outside, the fronts stick out a bit, but they do clear without rub, this is without a spacer as im only running spacers in the rear. I read online on evil03's ralliart wheel fitment guide on evoM (if you dont know what im talking about just google "ralliart wheel fitment" and it should be the first link) that the rears would need a pull to make them fit, so i indeed rented a roller, and pulled the shit out of my rears, i got a good 10-15mm in clearance with the pull to find that it wasnt even necessary in the first place haha. With the 38 offset and a 3mm spacer, the rim would have cleared my rear fender without the pull. I pulled them beforehand because i didnt want to drive home with them rubbing like crazy if they did stick out a lot. NOTE: i am on sportline springs and got a good amount of camber in the rear from the drop which gave me more clearance. with stock suspension i would say that the setup is still easily attainable, but the pull would be necessary to be safe just like evil03's guide says.

now im thinking of putting a 10mm or maybe 15mm if i can afford it, spacer in the back to get more flush as the rim and tire are still considerably inset in the fender.


Nice 51-30!

Champion3
02-03-2013, 02:28 PM
nice watch..

el3ment
05-27-2013, 06:04 PM
Hey guys.

I got a MY09 RA and lowered on BC coilovers at present. I already have them set to -2deg camber all round to fit my new rims..

18x9.5 +23 offset with 235/40 tires.

I will get the guards rolled and pulled, but from your experience, would anything else be required? Would I need more camber?

Nice ride you have. Those rims look awesome on your car and are flush as hell :)

el3ment
06-01-2013, 11:55 PM
So, I got my 9.5 wide rims on. Its looking good and we got to fit the fronts easily enough, thanks to the coilovers being adjustable...

The rears are sticking out still and wonder how others get more camber out the back? I need at least another -1deg... Any ideas anyone what could be used on a '09 Ralliart with coilovers?

A pic of fitment
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/tglaubitz/IMAG1120_zps54c8135b.jpg

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/tglaubitz/IMAG1121_zps1c65d5c1.jpg

rallianderson
02-24-2014, 07:30 AM
I have xxr 527 18x9.5 with 215/45/18 the only thing that needs rolled is the rears with a little poke it looks good

rallianderson
02-24-2014, 07:35 AM
18x9.5
215/45/18 1986
+25 offset

iralli_iskustvo
02-24-2014, 07:30 PM
I have xxr 527 18x9.5 with 215/45/18 the only thing that needs rolled is the rears with a little poke it looks good

Lets see some pics..

Drew
02-25-2014, 07:27 AM
I always find it interesting that the guys who run 9.5" wide rims have to stretch 8.5" wide tires on them, but those of us that run 8.5" wide rims can put 9.5" wide tires on them. Which part sticks to the road? :p

I know...I know.......Herra Frush.....

iralli_iskustvo
02-25-2014, 01:20 PM
I always find it interesting that the guys who run 9.5" wide rims have to stretch 8.5" wide tires on them, but those of us that run 8.5" wide rims can put 9.5" wide tires on them. Which part sticks to the road? :p

I know...I know.......Herra Frush.....

Lol thats a very interesting point..

sofly1990
04-17-2014, 08:26 PM
Alright have to bring this thread back. Awesome info. But I plan on running a 18x9.5 +38 with a 255/35/18 or 245/40 tire. Yea i am getting my fenders all pulled. What you guys think. Can I get that 255 on there. I want to run the least about of camber. I hate that crazy negative camber look and I know it's not safe for the track

urboimike27
04-24-2014, 12:30 AM
Hey, I have a question. I'm planning on getting Varrstoen ES3 18x9.5, but they come in 3 different offsets (12,22,30). Out of these three offsets which should I get when it comes to concavity and necessary modification needed for installation. I'm still on stock suspension, but I plan to get coilovers in the near future. Any help would be greatly appreciated since I'm pretty new to this, thanks.

08Lancer89
09-24-2014, 12:12 AM
So could I do a 18x9.5 30offset on a 235/40/18

Nast_Nas
09-24-2014, 05:50 PM
So could I do a 18x9.5 30offset on a 235/40/18

would need a roll and a pull in the rear, very aggressive setup