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Blaze
11-25-2009, 03:34 PM
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_sportback.jpg

Initial Impressions

I’ve owned many a car in my day ranging from BMWs to Hondas to something you couldn’t get a homeless guy to sleep in. Recently I acquired a 2010 Lancer Ralliart Sportback to evaluate, modify and market.

Mitsubishi is looking to gain a stronger foothold in Europe where wagon/hatch vehicles like the WRX, VW or Mazda wagons are already very popular. Enter the 2010 Ralliart Sportback there, and now stateside as well. The one I wound up with was an Octane Blue Pearl, with the Recaro and Tech packages.

A quick walk around and you notice it’s not your typical lancer. Exterior styling is greatly improved with the standard euro styling front fascia and a duel exhaust in the rear. It has stylish lines from the vented bonnet to aero side skirts to the sleek spoiler over the hatch. Over all, it was more then I expected. But a wagon….

I thought it might be a challenge to get into the whole “idea” behind the Sportback. For me, a wagon was for soccer moms or traveling vacuum cleaner salesmen. That stigma quickly flew out the rear hatch after climbing in. Once seated, I found a very familiar interior to that of my other Mitsu with regards to the controls, updated display, paddle shifters and snug Recaro seats.

Once on the road, the car has pep! It pulls just like my old Audi, but with with greater responsiveness and a greater sense of “substance,” leaving me quite happy to ignore the suggested speed signs on corners. You really feel like you got a lot more then what you paid for with the Ralliart.

So, I settled into the car on the way home, but it wasn’t until a few days later when I realized the diabolic nature of “wagon lifestyle.” You have room, and lots of it. The car comes with a huge trunk. (I mean, “duh, it’s a wagon, right?”) But then I quickly realized just how useful “space” can be. But then the space kept going. It went up…to the ceiling! No more wrapping twin around a trunk lid for me…. And the seats folded down….FLAT. The seats in my M3 won’t do that which makes it very hard to transport anything larger then a suitcase. I have room to take my whole family to the mountains, bags, people and skis (well the skis will wind up on a roof rack) but you get the idea.

Suddenly I found myself putting all sorts of stuff in the car, just to see if it would fit. Cooler? Check. Oddly shaped holiday packages from the post office? No problem. Extra set of wheel and tires? There’s room! Seriously….this is awesome! And suddenly I realized I have a car with performance, styling and usefulness for everyday life to boot.

So let the mod’ing begin. :D

MikeW-RRE
11-25-2009, 04:52 PM
Should be a fun project! Seriously, what do the Foo-Foo EVO X guys do when they go to the store... any store and buy something. Walk out to their car and try to fit their just purchased junk in the trunk? I can just see them taking things out of the boxes, stuffing things sideways in the back seat :-P

With some cheap mods you can get stock EVO X HP for well under $1500. Go big and the sky is the limit. I know one Sportback running around So Cal with a GT-35 and SSP clutches so GO BIG or GO HOME newbie ;-)

You gonna make it a sleeper or a Bling Show 'Ho?

Mike W

TheBlackBeast
11-26-2009, 01:35 PM
That's great to see you are running a project with this! I look forward to seeing what you have planned for it. I hope you will share the details and have plenty of detailed write-ups on how-to's and so forth. You are great at providing plenty of detail from other posts I've seen you make on socalevo...

Blaze
11-28-2009, 10:01 PM
You gonna make it a sleeper or a Bling Show 'Ho?

I want to go a different route with this car. Since the car was initially designed for the Euro-Market, I thought about starting there. It's best to build from the ground up, so I spend the last 3 days working with Robi and Shaun to get the suspension set up. I'm just waiting for whiteline to sent out their rear sway bar and I'll be done with stage 1 of a 2 stage set up.

Rims are the next to go, then I'll be turning my attention toward the engine and aero next.

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs051.snc3/13868_188363879451_720529451_2760401_5194707_n.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs051.snc3/13868_188362119451_720529451_2760387_1700020_n.jpg

2010 Rallihead Sportback
11-29-2009, 12:36 PM
love it!!!! we have the same color.

TheBlackBeast
11-29-2009, 08:18 PM
Very nice! Keep us posted!

Blaze
11-30-2009, 02:36 PM
If you build anything, it's best to start from the ground up. The highest building starts with a strong foundation. And the same goes for cars and suspension. You can make Godzilla power all day, but if you can't keep it on the pavement, what good is it?

Enter Robert Fuller of Robi-Spec:

Robert is heavily involved in my other Mitsubishi projects and was the logical choice for the Sportback as well. He's had his for nearly a year now and has a wrap sheet of all the ins/outs, tips/tricks that you need to make these cars stick.

I called Robi up on Monday the 23 with a tight schedule. He, not being a stranger to time constraints) scheduled me for Thursday. Yeah...Thanksgiving! So while everyone else is grubbing on turkey, we were shivering in the Hysperia based shop getting the pre-lims out of the way for the new suspension.

Currently, we're running a set of BBS 18x8.5 +28 BBS wheels off an Evolution X, MR. We'll be swapping these out for a nice set of RAYS wheels later, but for the mean time, they are a great upgrade over stock. Unfortunately, they rub...a lot....at stock height. Thus we needed to cut, roll and pull the fenders slightly to insure we wouldn't be feathering the sides of our tires on the track.

I do not recommend you try this at home, however, here are the steps we took:

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_2%7E4.jpg

1. The first thing you we did was cut away all the insulation at the base from the base of the fenders. We took a sharp blade and pretty much just scrapped it off. If you use a grinder, the insulation melts and makes a huge mess.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_3%7E3.jpg

2. After this was done, we ground the rest of the fender to make a clean surface which we sealed with black primer after the fenders were rolled. This also prevents the paint from cracking unpredictably.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_6%7E1.jpg

3. The fenders were then notched and we (he) began to slowly and carefully work the fender away from where it would have impacted the wheels/tires.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_5%7E1.jpg

4. A quick touch of with black primer and the car is good to go!

Blaze
11-30-2009, 03:29 PM
Friday rolled around and it was time to get get a set of lowering springs onto the car. Robi commissioned Progress Technology to create a spring with a rate best suited for the Ralliart. These, plus a few other tricks can push the potential parallel to the capabilities of most coil over set ups.

Robert was not available Friday, so it was off to SS Racing in Alta Loma. With a 12-pack of blue moon in one hand, new springs in the other and pizza in the other (not sure where the third arm came from) we set to work.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_pizza.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_springs.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_1%7E4.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_3%7E4.jpg

Over all, it was a lot of hard work cussing and a short knife fight with a spider named chuck who tried to bumb a smoke (big spider).

Once the spings were in and the ride height settled, everything looked great. The ride is very comfortable compared to stock and after a trip back to Robi-Spec the following day, the turn in and holding power is dramatically improved. The last part of "stage 1" will be the addition of a rear sway bar from white-line. Early next year, we'll move to a more aggressive stage 2 (stay tuned).

Blaze
11-30-2009, 03:33 PM
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_Picture%20024%7E0.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_Picture%20025.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_Picture%20026.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_Picture%20032.jpg

CarGuy
11-30-2009, 11:21 PM
Nice write-up Blaze! What other mods do you have planned?

Blaze
12-01-2009, 08:56 AM
Nice write-up Blaze! What other mods do you have planned?

I'm staging the engine mods this week. I have a lot of parts from the stage 1 build on my MR that I'm intending to roll over. The motor will likely see a two stage build with the final goal of running between 325 and 350WHP.

ATM, the stock battery is really in my way. I saw a really sleek mini-battery set up for a STI a few weeks ago. I'm going to try and fabricate my own solution so I can run the intake that I want.

In the end, I'm sure it will be similar to my other builds, but with fewer stickers and (god willing) it'll be high enough off the ground that I can clear a speed bump.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_1556%5B1%5D.jpg
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_1516%7E1.JPG

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/2GB3.jpg

http://autoimportcraze.com/images/cars/jasonEVO/cl10.jpg

justin81
12-04-2009, 06:40 PM
great build. can't wait to see what you do next

Blaze
01-01-2010, 05:35 PM
Coming Soon:

Some new goodies are on their way or have arrived:

Black CE28Ns (18x8.5) Black
http://img193.exs.cx/img193/3491/cedbup9jn.jpg

AEM Intake
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_1694.JPG

This is going to require the battery augmentation to reduce it's size and location.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_1697.JPG

Blaze
01-01-2010, 05:38 PM
Using my evo's intake to estimate space, I should have enough room just to the left of the intake if I relocate the mini fuse/relay box.
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_1698.JPG
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_1699.JPG

Also I'll be playing with an Evo X intercooler next week and doing some test fitments with a BBY front clip to let in a little more air.

Evo X Intercooler
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_1696.JPG

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/blacktrack/OB%20X%20GSR/FrontStraight.jpg

Ladogaboy
01-01-2010, 08:28 PM
Awesome. What is the offset on the CE28Ns?

CarGuy
01-02-2010, 01:45 PM
Nice update MR Blaze~!

Blaze
01-03-2010, 07:53 PM
Awesome. What is the offset on the CE28Ns?

The offset is +52.
I'll be using 15mm Kics spacers all around, then 25mm when the new front fenders go on.

Ladogaboy
01-04-2010, 11:58 AM
The offset is +52.
I'll be using 15mm Kics spacers all around, then 25mm when the new front fenders go on.

Ahh. I'm still not too sure about running spacers, but those will definitely do the trick! :p

Blaze
01-05-2010, 10:17 AM
Ahh. I'm still not too sure about running spacers, but those will definitely do the trick! :p

Spacers are fine as long as you use something with a hub centric ring design, like KICs.

If you run a standard spacer (or a wheel that does not fit snugly onto the OEM hub ring) you place the weight of the vehicle solely on the wheel studs. Over time, aggressive street or track use, will cause the studs to bend and or break.

More information can be found here: http://www.justforwheels.com/index.jsp?cat=hubcentric&sub=how

Proper KICs spacers and KICs brand hub centric rings can be found here: http://www.mackinindustries.com/wm/kics/kics.html

Ladogaboy
01-05-2010, 10:29 AM
Great info. Thanks!

TheBlackBeast
01-05-2010, 01:19 PM
Very interesting - thanks for sharing the info on KICS!

Blaze
01-20-2010, 01:03 PM
We left the Ralliart with HB Speed to test the new firmware for COBB. Initially there was an issue where Jon could not load the new maps. A day later, COBB sent out a revision and Jon was off and running. Over the next week, HB established stage 1 and 2 base maps for the car.

The graph below represents a the factory tune compared to stage 2. The car was stock with the exception a test pipe (for off road use only). So the gains are about 45 peak WHP and 57 TQ. Not bad for 91 octane and a "stock car" and pretty amazing for just base maps.


http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/graph.php.jpg


EDIT: This tune was done without a boost pill.

Also, these are the maps that will be available to the public either through COBB, or you can have one tailored to your needs by HB Speed.

Blaze
02-04-2010, 10:51 AM
Pulled the RA FMIC today and replaced it with the OEM one from my MR.

HUGE difference in size....

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_1848.JPG

Special Thanks to Road Race Engineering for the oddly colored red coupler. O0
I'll bring the black one back, since it didn't fit. AND the SD card.....

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_1854.JPG

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_1852.JPG

Happily ever after. No one's the wiser that it's been modded.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_1856.JPG

Blaze
02-04-2010, 10:51 AM
Added a set of VOLK CE28Ns to the car last weekend.
These are wrapped in Yokohama Advan Neovas.

http://www.doubledgarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/18.jpg

http://www.doubledgarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/171.jpg

Ladogaboy
02-04-2010, 11:58 AM
Nice. The Volks are going to give a pretty good view of any brake mods you do! :D

Blaze
02-04-2010, 12:56 PM
Nice. The Volks are going to give a pretty good view of any brake mods you do! :D

Yeah, I'm looking into a set of front brakes.
For the back, I'll have them polished and match painted to the fronts.

Ladogaboy
02-04-2010, 01:48 PM
I think Robispec has been working on getting the RA an all-around set. It replaces the front calipers and rotors, but only replaces the rear calipers. I thought thebrakeman.com carried it... not sure. :confused:

Here it is:

http://www.thebrakeman.com/evo_kits

Blaze
02-04-2010, 02:42 PM
Yes, Robi did a lot of the development on those. I'm not certain if that's the route I'm going to go though. We'll see.

jRox
02-04-2010, 08:53 PM
They look good. What are the specs on the wheels?

Blaze
02-05-2010, 08:07 AM
They are 18x8.5+54 with 10mm spacers all around.
They aren't quite as flush as the BBS ones I was running, so I'll probably change out the spacers later on.

http://www.initialtiming.com/images/MexicanEvo/jan2010/MexicanEvo_Shoot_Jan2010-24.jpg

http://www.initialtiming.com/images/MexicanEvo/jan2010/MexicanEvo_Shoot_Jan2010-26.jpg

http://www.initialtiming.com/images/MexicanEvo/jan2010/MexicanEvo_Shoot_Jan2010-28.jpg

Blaze
06-15-2010, 07:22 AM
MOD is coming up and I wanted to do something new with the car. I've been wanted to make some aero changes to the car, but there aren't a lot of options geared toward the RA.

And with that, I turned toward the evo aftermarket. I acquired an evo x front bumper and found it bolts up about 90% of the way. The fenders on the RA are narrower then the evo, which causes the bumper to warp abnormally where it connects. Now if Star Trek is your think, warp away. As for me, I like things to fit like they came from the factory, so I went off to find a set of evo fenders as well.

Since the evo x is also fairly new, there weren't a lot of aftermarket choices and no one was willing to part with their OEMs. After many weeks of debating buying new fenders from the dealership (very expensive) I opted for a set of carbon ones which were an extra 10mm wider then OEM.

With the front of the car pretty well covered, it was time to give some love/balance to the rear. In Japan, older evos came with SAYC (Super Active Yaw Control) which would hinder the cars ability to rotate in turns. One inexpensive solution to this, was to run a 25mm or greater offset in the front and leave the rear alone. This created the desired affect. I've found that while driving the RA, the rear end already wants to rotate so I didn't want to encourage it any further. So I found a set of fender flares for the rear of the car (off another make) that seem to fit pretty well. They will need to be customized so that everything finishes and lines up where it needs to.

I'll be posting pictures of the cars progress over the next few weeks leading into MOD. Wish me luck.

Blaze

MTZL
06-15-2010, 10:34 AM
Good luck,
I know first hand how expensive custom body work cost.
so where are the Pics?

Blaze
06-16-2010, 07:40 AM
Good luck,
I know first hand how expensive custom body work cost.
so where are the Pics?

It was dropped off last Friday, so "construction won't begin until later this week. The front of the car will basically look like an evo X (just 10mm wider). The rear is going to use a customized set of the fenders below. They'll be cut/split along the door jam, shaved and molded to match the body lines of the car.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/31694_133148363367794_100000178948357_357290_30007 59_n.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/32578_405505529451_720529451_4074520_995391_n.jpg

MTZL
06-16-2010, 10:02 AM
hMM.. Thats pretty nice theme Blue & white but
Im sure you gonna paint it all the same color?

Blaze
06-17-2010, 07:09 AM
Those are unpainted fender flares that we're just mocking up to the car. The final color will match the rest of the car.

MTZL
06-17-2010, 11:35 AM
Those are unpainted fender flares that we're just mocking up to the car. The final color will match the rest of the car.

Here i thought someone was gonna hold that for you while you drive or parked like in the pics. :D
I cant wait to see EVO SB. ;)

Ralliart23
06-19-2010, 08:49 AM
post pics of the evo bumper and fenders :D i cant wait to see

zeRep85
06-19-2010, 12:16 PM
post pics of the evo bumper and fenders :D i cant wait to see

^^^+1

(message too short..)

Blaze
06-19-2010, 08:16 PM
Work on the body starts this week. I hope to have everything wrapped up by the following Friday. I'll be posting progress shows of how everything goes. Specifically the fenders mating to the side skirts is an area of concern. It's possible the skirt or fender (or both) may need to be cut slightly, but we'll see.

Blaze

Jackal
06-20-2010, 10:09 AM
This thread has been a great read, can't wait to see what you do next.

Blaze
06-20-2010, 03:14 PM
This thread has been a great read, can't wait to see what you do next.

Next is interior, then some engine bling, then media coverage.

Blaze
06-21-2010, 02:14 PM
Got the front bumper and fenders on this morning. Fitment seems pretty good.
The fenders are going to be painted to match the car, but we'll leave a bit of exposed carbon around the vents as a nod back.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_SDC16037.JPG

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_SDC16038.JPG

Blaze
06-21-2010, 02:16 PM
The vents are hideous (I know). These are going to be sprayed a flat or low gloss black.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_SDC16039.JPG

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_SDC16040.JPG

Wheel gap powns me. Bigger wheels or spacers will have to be added asap.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_SDC16041.JPG

geargrinder
06-21-2010, 03:07 PM
Wow nice!! If it were me I would leave ALL the carbon as nod back, lol. Looks good.

MTZL
06-21-2010, 05:54 PM
So you can house wider EVO X wheels now??? I really want to know. thx.
whats wrong with the passenger fender? looks like it got too wide of a gap or bended in-ward?
Side skirt & fender at the bottom doesnt line up. Maybe Im just too picky..
& looking out for you just in case you missed it being over excited? that can happen.

Blaze
06-21-2010, 10:01 PM
So you can house wider EVO X wheels now??? I really want to know. thx.

Look back on posts 7-9. I already ran evo wheels.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_Picture%20024%7E0.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_Picture%20025.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_Picture%20026.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_Picture%20032.jpg

whats wrong with the passenger fender? looks like it got too wide of a gap or bended in-ward?

The gap between the fender and the door is not horrible. It's just more obvious due to the color drop off blue - gap - carbon.

Side skirt & fender at the bottom doesnt line up. Maybe Im just too picky..
& looking out for you just in case you missed it being over excited? that can happen.

You're not too picky, but check it out in person at MOD before you make your final judgment. If you want it to be perfect, I would highly recommend against running seibon brand products. Mitsubishi OEM fenders can be purchased for as little as 700 dollars and everything will line up, "OEM." I went with Seibon because I plan to part the car out later (and I didn't know what the market would be for used OEM fenders). It'll be much easier to sell these for 4-500 painted then it would be to sell OEMs.....

MTZL
06-22-2010, 09:48 AM
Look back on posts 7-9. I already ran evo wheels.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_Picture%20024%7E0.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_Picture%20025.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_Picture%20026.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_Picture%20032.jpg



The gap between the fender and the door is not horrible. It's just more obvious due to the color drop off blue - gap - carbon.

Side skirt & fender at the bottom doesnt line up. Maybe Im just too picky..
& looking out for you just in case you missed it being over excited? that can happen.[/QUOTE]

You're not too picky, but check it out in person at MOD before you make your final judgment. If you want it to be perfect, I would highly recommend against running seibon brand products. Mitsubishi OEM fenders can be purchased for as little as 700 dollars and everything will line up, "OEM." I went with Seibon because I plan to part the car out later (and I didn't know what the market would be for used OEM fenders). It'll be much easier to sell these for 4-500 painted then it would be to sell OEMs.....[/QUOTE]

So what happened to those BBS wheels you had on your SB?

Blaze
06-22-2010, 11:18 AM
So what happened to those BBS wheels you had on your SB?

Sitting in the garage next to 3 other stacks of wheels.

zeRep85
06-22-2010, 01:20 PM
Sitting in the garage next to 3 other stacks of wheels.

Looking to get rid of any?

Wheels are HELLA expensive

EricJ@AMS
06-22-2010, 10:33 PM
Hey, give Melvin his car back! :D

Ralliart23
06-23-2010, 07:23 PM
how much was the bumper and fenders?

Blaze
06-23-2010, 09:57 PM
how much was the bumper and fenders?

Prices are going to vary. The majority of this vehicle is sponsored.

I'd recommend contacting your favorite vendor for the best pricing. SCM offers competitive pricing for OEM evo parts. I believe the front bumper runs around a grand and the fenders between 8 and 9 for the pair.

Best,

Blaze

Blaze
07-01-2010, 04:11 PM
Some pix of the carnage from the body shop. The rear panels are now being fitted, but and molded and matched to the 1/4 panel, rear bumper and side skirt. They'll be cutting and remolding the flair so that the door works too (I hope).

Hopefully this will all be finished and shot by Saturday and I'll have the car back after the holiday weekend. The total expansion is between 45 and 50mm.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_SDC16282.JPG

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_SDC16281.JPG

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_SDC16280.JPG

geargrinder
07-01-2010, 06:03 PM
Wow, I can't wait to see the completed project. What kind of brakes are you going to do. I just was wondering weather you were going to make this a full rallievo conversation?

Blaze
07-02-2010, 07:57 AM
Actually Mitsubishi doesn't like to use Evo and Ralliart in the same sentence. They're trying to keep the two product lines distinctly separate. The reason I've been working on the front conversion is because there are more aftermarket evo bumpers out then there are RAs. Thus when the care is fully kitted, it would make my life easier if the front end is "evo compatible." I don't know what I'll be doing with regards to brakes. I won't have the time to set something up before this MOD, but I may use a BBK before the year is out.

Blaze
07-07-2010, 07:24 AM
I miss my side markers. CURSE YOU SEIBON!!!!

I had the paint shop leave a kiss of CF exposed around the vent. This makes it look just a hair larger and well rounded.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_36405_411991699451_720529451_4233185_403023 1_n.jpg

Blaze
07-07-2010, 07:26 AM
Offset is everything, so Imma need to find me about 50mm more wheel before MOD.
:confused:

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/35227_411991749451_720529451_4233186_2445128_n.jpg

Blaze
07-07-2010, 07:29 AM
The rear bumper is pulled up and mated to the flare.
It's nearly seamless. I'll probably go back and make corrections if I mass produce these.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_34847_411992119451_720529451_4233204_477350 6_n.jpg

Blaze
07-07-2010, 07:31 AM
Side View. Still need to address the front fenders/running boards.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_35375_411991904451_720529451_4233198_486864 4_n.jpg

geargrinder
07-07-2010, 03:34 PM
Holy shxt that looks great.

MikeW-RRE
07-07-2010, 05:08 PM
With a little sticker tuning that is gonna rock.

MIke W

Blaze
07-08-2010, 07:23 AM
Changed out the wheels yesterday to start filling the 50+mm gap. I'm going to have to get something more agressive (perhaps dished).

But for now, these are a set of wheels I found in my garage. They're 18x9+35 with a 10mm spacer.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_34462_412444049451_720529451_4241933_695558 1_n.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_35329_412443869451_720529451_4241922_211143 8_n.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_36699_412443304451_720529451_4241890_757308 3_n.jpg

wutangmo15
07-08-2010, 11:35 AM
Wow, AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

MTZL
07-09-2010, 09:34 AM
Sick!
Props for getting it done. I know how much it take to get to it.
But I have to be honest.

Great paint job but body kit is just eh cause Im just too picky.
Front fender line & front door body line are off a little & edges of front fender rolled inward when it meets the front doors.

Great job on making the rear doors functional. But again it can be more streamline..one with the body lines.
Rear fender with another piece for rear bumper to mate with the rear fender. It seems like a piece is missing on the side of the rear bumper.
Also side skirt body line to match the rear fender flares. etc.

Does your splash guard & wheel well line up still?
How does the door & fender look with rear doors open?

I dont take nothing away from you, Big props for getting it done.
I hope I was constructive. I dont mean be negative in any way.

TheBlackBeast
07-09-2010, 12:31 PM
With a little sticker tuning that is gonna rock.

MIke W

+10 HP per sticker...

TheBlackBeast
07-09-2010, 12:32 PM
Changed out the wheels yesterday to start filling the 50+mm gap. I'm going to have to get something more agressive (perhaps dished).

But for now, these are a set of wheels I found in my garage. They're 18x9+35 with a 10mm spacer.
The blend work looks nearly perfect! Great paint job on that and I like how you left the CF around the side skirt vent. Although, I will have to agree with mtzl on the rear flares not matching the rear bumper and side skirt. Did you plan to address this in the future?

P.S. - Hope to meet up with you and check out your ride in person tomorrow at MOD.

Grippy Tire
07-09-2010, 02:03 PM
I love fender flares!!! Looking good Blaze :D

keef5728
08-01-2010, 12:12 AM
Incredible mate, did you think about putting boxed arches on the rear to?? Accolade do a kit that could be adapted ...maybe??

Blaze
08-02-2010, 07:04 AM
Incredible mate, did you think about putting boxed arches on the rear to?? Accolade do a kit that could be adapted ...maybe??

I didn't much care for the Accolade kit.

MTZL
08-17-2010, 09:01 AM
That Japanese Sportsback looks awesome! I dont like sportsback but I like that one! SWEET!

Hello friend!!

First to congratulate you on your amazing work!
I really like this evo appearance in your sportback.
Maybe you could improve the look by adding a Ralliart spoiler and rear diffuser.

Maybe find useful these pictures:


http://img01.carview.co.jp/minkara/blog/000/018/881/167/18881167/P1.jpg

...Japanese sportback

http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/minkara/usercar/000/000/504/551/504551/p1.jpg


Greetings from Spain ..

GTS_Rob
08-17-2010, 10:34 AM
both red and blue SB looking good!

RalliNurse
08-17-2010, 08:42 PM
I love the center exhaust setup and the rear bumper diffuser...it's pimp!

MikeW-RRE
08-18-2010, 02:51 PM
Thread Hijack:

Wow someone did a great job on the red car in changing the lines of the car with little paint details. Much swoopier looking. The black at the rear of the side window, the roof, the taillights...

Mike W

Blaze
10-24-2010, 06:47 PM
Upgrading to Voltex this week.

The lip on my X was damaged and I replaced it with a new one. I had the old one repaired and will be using it on the Ralliart. It bolts up perfectly (the benefit of authentic parts vs knock off). Next I'll be adding a set of carbon side diffusers, relocating the battery and installing a custom intake.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/df135036.jpg
http://www.doubledgarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/IMG_5749.jpg

WOW, so much more clearance!

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/89ed2f43.jpg
http://www.doubledgarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/IMG_5754.jpg

ChaseRalli
10-24-2010, 07:02 PM
Your X is my dream car.

Blaze
10-24-2010, 08:11 PM
Your X is my dream car.

Really? For me, it's more like a lazy in-law that you can't get rid of. The SportBack is by FAR a more practical car.

Off to the side of those two sleeps my "dream car." Or at least the one I'll never sell.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/GSX/941f3282.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/GSX/22fc5a4f.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/GSX/32153c75.jpg

zeRep85
10-24-2010, 11:47 PM
Nice cars...

whats underneath the hood of the eclipse if you dont mind me asking ;)

ChaseRalli
10-25-2010, 06:16 AM
I'll trade ya my ww ra for your ww X......:D:D:D:D

MTZL
10-25-2010, 10:03 AM
is that eclipse AWD? :)

Tommy Di Cat
10-25-2010, 06:14 PM
Did that lip really fit with no modification to your sportback?

zeRep85
10-25-2010, 09:58 PM
Did that lip really fit with no modification to your sportback?

He has an Evo X front end.

Check it out; Page 4
http://clubralliart.com/showthread.php?t=357&page=4

Blaze
10-25-2010, 10:15 PM
He has an Evo X front end.

Check it out; Page 4
http://clubralliart.com/showthread.php?t=357&page=4

Correct.

One of the main reasons I did the conversion to the front of the car is the lack of availability of aftermarket aero components. With the exception of a few splitters and/or universal parts, the RA has been coming up with the short end of the stick, while big brother enjoys the good graces of aftermarket companies.

So yes, this is a direct bolt on (once you convert to an evo front end) ;)

jRox
12-01-2010, 06:26 PM
BUMP for updates? :cool:

MikeW-RRE
12-01-2010, 07:15 PM
See that is the whole problem. He built that fly Sportback and now he has so many bitches he dont have time to post anymore. I hate when that happens!

Mike W

Jackal
12-10-2010, 06:16 AM
Looking forward to what presents your car will receive for Christmas.

MTZL
12-10-2010, 10:32 AM
See that is the whole problem. He built that fly Sportback and now he has so many bitches he dont have time to post anymore. I hate when that happens!

Mike W

Yeah bitches are a waste of time. Unless you enjoy wasting time than its not a wasted time. More bitches more problems. :D

Mkid
12-10-2010, 10:59 AM
[Insert 99 problems quote here]

MTZL
12-10-2010, 02:31 PM
[Insert 99 problems quote here]

[I GOT 99 PROBLEMS but my bitch aint one] :)

vplukas101
12-10-2010, 03:33 PM
I have 99 problems and they all bitches lol

Blaze
12-13-2010, 11:04 AM
See that is the whole problem. He built that fly Sportback and now he has so many bitches he dont have time to post anymore. I hate when that happens!

Mike W

I'm working with a mag who will be doing a formal write up on the project (specifically the conversion). Life has just been hectic lately.

I'm going to be dropping off the lip later this week for paint.
I'm ordering a new set of seats as well along with some other toys.

J

zeRep85
12-13-2010, 11:29 AM
I'm working with a mag who will be doing a formal write up on the project (specifically the conversion). Life has just been hectic lately.

I'm going to be dropping off the lip later this week for paint.
I'm ordering a new set of seats as well along with some other toys.

J

Hey Blaze,

What are your plans with the seats?

If selling i might be interested :)

Thanks,

zeRep

john mivec
01-16-2011, 10:15 PM
It was dropped off last Friday, so "construction won't begin until later this week. The front of the car will basically look like an evo X (just 10mm wider). The rear is going to use a customized set of the fenders below. They'll be cut/split along the door jam, shaved and molded to match the body lines of the car.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/31694_133148363367794_100000178948357_357290_30007 59_n.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/32578_405505529451_720529451_4074520_995391_n.jpg
Hi my name is john were can i get that piece the add on finder to the rear back side?

Mkid
01-19-2011, 10:56 PM
I'm going to guess that was a custom job. I was searching random ralliart pictures and saw that one too, its a little bit better quality if you view the thumbnail that links to a different picture for some reason. I was able to see that the rear bumper is smoothed into the rear fender... so thats what makes me think its a custom job.

MaxPower
01-23-2011, 10:15 AM
Oh my dear lord.
What exhaust is the FQ400 mod running??!!

Jackal
01-23-2011, 07:57 PM
I don't know but I bet the chances of him being pulled over for an impromtu inspection by the cops just doubled.

Blaze
01-31-2011, 07:28 PM
Hi my name is john were can i get that piece the add on finder to the rear back side?

The fenders are customized ASM fenders for an S2K.
I have been considering producing a batch, but it would depend on how many people are interested. I'm not in the custom fender biz. I just build the cars for the sponsors.

If you guys are interested in a set, maybe let me know at MOD this year and I will speak with the Admins to set up a group buy.

Blaze
01-31-2011, 07:31 PM
See that is the whole problem. He built that fly Sportback and now he has so many bitches he dont have time to post anymore. I hate when that happens!

Mike W

It's getting fly'er. Hopefully BRIDE Japan Series seats will be in by mid Feb.

In the meanwhile, here are the pix of the Voltex Lip (less the splitter which is going on this weekend). I got home late tonight, so I'm sorry for the dark cell phone pix.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/0ed4b1e8.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/8c8ef58a.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/c7c4b2fb.jpg

NFSLancerRA
02-03-2011, 01:42 PM
Is it just my imagination, or does the front bumper appear to bow-inwards around the fender? Does the support underneath the bumper require you to pull it ever so slightly, or something?

Blaze
02-03-2011, 03:42 PM
Is it just my imagination, or does the front bumper appear to bow-inwards around the fender? Does the support underneath the bumper require you to pull it ever so slightly, or something?


The body shop that did the front fenders made a custom bracket for the bumper attach point. This was because the RA clip/bracket points did not line up with the evo ones.

I later discovered that their definition of "custom" was to shave the oem piece down to nothing and attach the bumper at the one remaining fender screw. So no, you're eyes are not deceiving you.

I'll wind up taking the bumper off to do the full install of the new lip/splitter. When I do, I'll make a REAL bracket. That combined with the rigidity of the new lip should resolve any aesthetic gaps.

NFSLancerRA
02-03-2011, 04:03 PM
When I do, I'll make a REAL bracket. That combined with the rigidity of the new lip should resolve any aesthetic gaps.

When you do that, may I request that you make a set for me as well? I will pay you for your trouble. I would really appreciate that. :D

NFSLancerRA
02-03-2011, 04:05 PM
I do like the rear arches, though. That was a good idea.

Blaze
02-03-2011, 11:17 PM
When you do that, may I request that you make a set for me as well? I will pay you for your trouble. I would really appreciate that. :D

You don't have to pay me unless shipping is involved. But you understand the front conversion on the car involved wide fenders too, right? The Evo bumper isn't exactly plug and play....

Lmk

NFSLancerRA
02-04-2011, 07:57 AM
EDIT: I am actually more interested in adding fender flares to allow for an overall wider wheel. How to I go about sizing them up or do you have recommendations on what to buy?

Blaze
02-07-2011, 04:01 PM
Well, this is getting a little off topic, but there are pleanty of companies who make generic fender flares. You just need to do a little searching.

Look on the drifter forums. Sylvias, 86s and the older Zs run stuff like that all the time. It's kind of "down and dirty" but you can make it look presentable. I styled mine to look like nothing had been done to the car (which probably took more effort and money then I should have spent...).

MikeW-RRE
02-07-2011, 04:33 PM
I got 9.5" Volks with 265s on the back of my RalliArt with out flares. Takes some creative rolling but no heroics.

Mike W
(taking the thread hijack and running with it!)

Blaze
02-08-2011, 08:55 AM
Mike W
(taking the thread hijack and running with it!)

Take my 2G and sort out the electrical!!!

The stance of the car is important not only for aesthetics, but also for the performance of the vehicle. When you chose a set of wheels and tires, think about this and plan ahead. Because once you own the set, it's really not the best idea to machine the wheels or run spacers to correct an offset that should have been spec'd properly in the first place.

That's my 2c. Do as I say, not as I do. lol
This car isn't a DD, it's for exhibition purposes only.

jRox
02-09-2011, 09:06 PM
I got 9.5" Volks with 265s on the back of my RalliArt with out flares. Takes some creative rolling but no heroics.

Mike W
(taking the thread hijack and running with it!)

No pics, no proof! :eek:

Blaze
02-10-2011, 11:05 AM
No pics, no proof! :eek:


If Mike says he quad turbo'd his car, that's good enough for me. He has no reason to lie.

But maybe he can post a build thread on the car with more pix so people can see what their options are.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f245/BBoyFunky/ohmyfuckingchrist.jpg

evil03
02-10-2011, 11:50 AM
I got 9.5" Volks with 265s on the back of my RalliArt with out flares. Takes some creative rolling but no heroics.

Mike W
(taking the thread hijack and running with it!)



yea thats a good fit... i have done som 18x9.5+30 with some 255 and i still had room for bigger... so 265 is very possible!

GAbOS
02-10-2011, 11:59 AM
Finally! people running actual tire sizes for the rim they purchased. I find it hilarious that people go with 9.5's or similar only to put 225's on them :rolleyes:

MTZL
02-10-2011, 12:42 PM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f245/BBoyFunky/ohmyfuckingchrist.jpg

Is this what Mike W@RRE built? Where did he get those tiny turbos?
how much power? Quad-Turbo!!!! lol.

Blaze
02-11-2011, 10:35 PM
Is this what Mike W@RRE built? Where did he get those tiny turbos?
how much power? Quad-Turbo!!!! lol.

That's not an RRE Build. It's just a concept head that a company made a while back. I think it was AMS or Cosworth.

Blaze
02-11-2011, 10:35 PM
Finally got the voltex lip and splitter on the RA today.
Lost all the hardware and didn't find it until an hour ago.
I'll post better pix this weekend.

<3

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/6850f74d.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/764fca49.jpg

ralli_art_2010
03-10-2011, 05:33 AM
Looking amazing. Cant wait for the finished product!

MTZL
03-10-2011, 10:45 AM
Looks Great! :cool:

rgwinn
03-10-2011, 01:41 PM
The car is looking really good.


Is it possible to just change out the center front portion, with the crash beam, to get the center vents? Would be nice to get more air flow on the Ralliart.

Thanks,

rg

Blaze
03-10-2011, 09:04 PM
No, that's not possible.
The bumper is designed to connect to wider fenders.
If you tried to bolt it to standard ralliart fenders, it would bow and look horrible.

Blaze
03-10-2011, 09:09 PM
Some pix from the last show at the Del Mar Fairgrounds.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_mURI_temp_e05bd7fc.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_mURI_temp_91dc26fd.jpg

http://www.doubledgarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IMG_1099.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/812da397.jpg?t=1299816522

2muchboost
03-10-2011, 09:42 PM
^^^ Looking good! Sorry if i missed it but what are the wheel and tire specs?

In the first pic it looks like your RA has a GT wing! That would be pretty cool on a sportback :)

rgwinn
03-10-2011, 10:04 PM
No, that's not possible.
The bumper is designed to connect to wider fenders.
If you tried to bolt it to standard ralliart fenders, it would bow and look horrible.

Ahh, ok that is what I was trying to find out, thank you sir.

rg

Blaze
03-10-2011, 10:04 PM
^^^ Looking good! Sorry if i missed it but what are the wheel and tire specs?

In the first pic it looks like your RA has a GT wing! That would be pretty cool on a sportback :)

The Evo Wheels are 18x10+22.
The RA Wheels are 18x8.5 + 63

I'm thinking about a custom wing for the car. I just haven't decided what to do with it. I'll probably work with Voltex again and see what they can come up with. Probably something like a Type H2/H2S....

http://www.voltex.ne.jp/pro_images/pro_GT_TypeH2S_640.jpg

2muchboost
03-10-2011, 10:33 PM
Very nice! I really like the Type H2.

Any plans on some more aggressive wheels for the RA?
You should slap the Evo X wheels on the RA. I bet they fit perfect!!! :)

Blaze
03-10-2011, 11:09 PM
Very nice! I really like the Type H2.

Any plans on some more aggressive wheels for the RA?
You should slap the Evo X wheels on the RA. I bet they fit perfect!!! :)

I don't think that VOLK would appreciate that very much.
Nor would Advan/Yokohama.

Both cars are under separate contractual obligations by their sponsors.

2muchboost
03-10-2011, 11:17 PM
ahhhh.. I see. Sucks to be you! JK. Your cars are looking awesome!

Blaze
03-14-2011, 08:53 AM
New bling for the Ralliart this weekend.

Got ride of the rubber Evo X upper IC pipe and engine cowl and replaced them with some Colt-Speed parts I had kicking around.

I'm not sure about the red/blue combo.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_9444.JPG

BravoZero
03-14-2011, 11:21 AM
New bling for the Ralliart this weekend.

Got ride of the rubber Evo X upper IC pipe and engine cowl and replaced them with some Colt-Speed parts I had kicking around.

I'm not sure about the red/blue combo.



Try taking a picture of the car with the hood open. I think with a blue car with some under-hood blue accents from the UICP, a red engine cover would stand out and make it say "Yea, I'm a badass". Let's people know you don't have a laughable motor under the hood.

Blaze
03-14-2011, 01:52 PM
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_9397.JPG

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_9411.JPG

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_9513.JPG

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_IMG_9614.JPG

Blaze
06-05-2011, 09:39 PM
Time to get ready for MOD 2011.

I decided to add a steering wheel this weekend. It was a tough call deciding what to use in the Ralliart. I finally chose.....RALLIART. ;)

In addition, I'm using a Boss short hub and RapFix GTC release.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_2719.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_2725.jpg

Blaze
06-05-2011, 09:39 PM
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_2726.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_2731.jpg

Blaze
06-17-2011, 01:06 PM
Bigger FMIC went in today.
Fits like a glove!


http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_2845.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_2849.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_2850.jpg

razorlab
06-17-2011, 01:58 PM
Looks like you need to put the Evo 10 bumper support on because that bumper fits like arse with the fenders currently. Holy gap.

eRocKiiN
06-17-2011, 11:08 PM
Lets see a full dash shot with that wheel on!

Blaze
06-18-2011, 10:07 AM
Looks like you need to put the Evo 10 bumper support on because that bumper fits like arse with the fenders currently. Holy gap.

No, not exactly. When I commissions the body shop to do the install they did more damage then anything else.

- Rather then use EVO side brackets to the fenders, they shaved the RA ones and trimmed the connect points on the bumper so it has nothing to attach too.
- Rather then use an EVO under-tray, they zip-tied the bumper to the existing under tray.

All that, combined with oncoming aero and the weight of the voltex splitter (which they also damaged) caused the front end to bow inward, creating the condition you see now.

I'm making a custom under-tray this weekend which should provide adequate support along with the correct bumper brackets. Come check it out at MOD.

razorlab
06-18-2011, 10:56 AM
No, not exactly. When I commissions the body shop to do the install they did more damage then anything else.

- Rather then use EVO side brackets to the fenders, they shaved the RA ones and trimmed the connect points on the bumper so it has nothing to attach too.
- Rather then use an EVO under-tray, they zip-tied the bumper to the existing under tray.

All that, combined with oncoming aero and the weight of the voltex splitter (which they also damaged) caused the front end to bow inward, creating the condition you see now.

I'm making a custom under-tray this weekend which should provide adequate support along with the correct bumper brackets. Come check it out at MOD.

Ah that makes more sense now. Bummer.

EricS09RA
06-18-2011, 12:38 PM
Evo undertray is different than the RA?

razorlab
06-18-2011, 12:54 PM
Evo undertray is different than the RA?

Yup it is indeed

MTZL
06-18-2011, 10:06 PM
have I mentioned I hate bodyshops?

Jackal
06-19-2011, 12:06 AM
+ 1 For Hate Bodyshops!

NFSLancerRA
06-19-2011, 05:25 PM
I am my bodyshop.

eRocKiiN
06-20-2011, 12:13 AM
I am my bodyshop.

+1, Winning

Blaze
08-05-2011, 08:09 AM
Cameo from this month's issue of Modified.

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/normal_modified.jpg

BravoZero
08-05-2011, 08:29 AM
Oh my god, that Viper looks sick!

Jackal
08-05-2011, 07:40 PM
That viper is beyond sick I think it's terminal with all its guts falling out like that LOL !

Blaze
08-12-2011, 06:35 PM
Added some new JDM seat covers this afternoon. ;)
They are full of WIN.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_3927.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_3930.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_3928.jpg

Jackal
08-12-2011, 11:27 PM
Will thethese fit the Ralliart Recaros? Or did you swap out your factory Recaros for these? You did say seat covers right? Need more info, would love to put a carbon fiber backing onto the back of our recaros as it would be easier to wipr clean.

BravoZero
08-13-2011, 07:39 AM
Those seats.... are pure sex. I want.

Blaze
08-13-2011, 09:57 PM
Will thethese fit the Ralliart Recaros? Or did you swap out your factory Recaros for these? You did say seat covers right? Need more info, would love to put a carbon fiber backing onto the back of our recaros as it would be easier to wipr clean.

No dude, they aren't really seat covers. That was a joke.

These are BRIDE Japan Series Vorga seats. 2 of 100 seats produced. They made from dry carbon on the back and covered in suede. 2 grand per seat + rails and sliders. You can contact a local BRIDE distributor for more info.

Jackal
08-14-2011, 08:36 AM
Yeah I got that but if they are only 2k apiece and the factory recaros retail at over 2700 each does that mean you downgraded ?? LOL ! jk

RalliNurse
08-15-2011, 06:07 PM
Blaze...I hate u with a passion....

I'm about to drink some 40oz. of Hate-a-rade!!!!

Sexy looking set of seat though!!!:)

GAbOS
08-15-2011, 11:39 PM
Blaze.. that is true smx.

It's taken me this long to say it only for the fact that I have to grab a towel before I get to the keyboard.

Blaze
08-28-2011, 02:45 PM
This afternoon in blistering triple digit temps, I got a bug up my ass and decided to upgrade the intake side of the car.

Some preliminary thoughts from me:

Upgrading the intake systems on the Ralliart are counter-productive at best. The OEM intake filter and induction system are the best thing you can use on your cars. Adding a drop in filter (HKS/Cosworth) will cause the car to knock.

I have issues with a lot of claims companies are making these days about the gains made by their intake systems. I don't doubt that you can make power, however, this modification should really be made 1, with coordination with your tuner (ie reflash) and 2, in conjunction additional mods like a turbo upgrade in order to justify the cost and ROI.

So with all that said, you may ask why am I bothering to upgrade? The answer to that is two part. One, I wanted to do a test fitment of a pre-production product and 2, I have an event coming up that will require additional aesthetics then what the OEM plastic box can provide.

So this past weekend, while perusing around a certain data center, I cam across a mystery box from HKS.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_4711.jpg

Inside, I found the final pre-production R-Suction Intake supplied by HKS for test fitment (back in 2008). Never installed and begging to see some sun.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_4712.jpg

After taking possession, I did a quick inventory of the goods. Everything seemed to be there.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_4714.jpg

And so, it was time to take this bad boy apart.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_4716.jpg

Blaze
08-28-2011, 02:58 PM
Two things quickly became clear as I got the intake system dismantled.

1. My engine bay is fk'ing dirty and needs a thorough cleaning.

2. The MAF pipe was not going to work without a 45 degree coupler and some tweeking, so......TBC on that on. :(

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_4719.jpg

The next thing to which my particular attention was directed was the included bracket(s). Without the MAF pipe, the filter sits further back and subsequently won't line up to where the bracket was designed to connect. So, I made my own.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_4721.jpg

The hot-wire adapter pipe is a bad ass piece of engineering. Not the variant diameters on the pipe to create a vortex just in front of the hot wires in order to better simulate the OEM airflow. Very simple things like this go over looked when you slap on "brand x" intake. But it reflects months of R&D by HKS and why their parts work without compromise (albeit on the platforms they are designed for).

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_4726.jpg

Blaze
08-28-2011, 03:00 PM
Bracket installed. And yes, yes....I know. I'm pulling out the pressure washer once I finish this post.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_4729.jpg

I played a quick game of fisticuffs with the radiator shroud while replacing a vacuum line. It didn't go so well.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_4732.jpg

Blaze
08-28-2011, 03:02 PM
3 Band-Aids later, everything is back together.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_4740.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_4742.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_4743.jpg

Scarab23
08-28-2011, 03:05 PM
very cool. is this something the public will be able to get their hands on soon?

Blaze
08-28-2011, 03:15 PM
It was pre-production back in 2008. The R-Suction kit has been available to the public for a while now. HOWEVER, the retail is over 400 bux and the MAF pipe is meant for the Evo, NOT the Ralliart. So you could save $300 dollars and just purchase the filter by itself (which is essentially what I've installed here).

Remember, you'll need to make a custom bracket.

Blaze

razorlab
08-28-2011, 05:45 PM
Don't forget to rescale the MAF scaling after that MAF pipe swap.

Mkid
08-29-2011, 06:25 AM
Adding a drop in filter (HKS/Cosworth) will cause the car to knock.

Have you verified this? I'd say a good portion of the forum are running drop in filters and you are the first person I've seen say something negative about them.

Blaze
08-29-2011, 07:47 AM
Have you verified this? I'd say a good portion of the forum are running drop in filters and you are the first person I've seen say something negative about them.

This is per the guy who writes the base maps for COBB.
I have reason to believe him.

Perhaps Bryan from GST can go into greater detail?

MikeW-RRE
08-29-2011, 12:06 PM
HKS drop in filters in my experience are hit and miss. About half of the car that come through with them have strange stuff going on. I sell a butt load of Cosworth drop in filters and never had a single problem. Oiled KNNs are not my scene really, they lean out things a lot, but the oil thing with a hot wire MAF isnt a good idea.

Regarding knock... these cars knock stock in Cali. Xs and RalliArts both. Drop in filters are designed intentionally for the X to lean things out. On the K&N when they designed it they changed the orientation of the pleats and one way was no power, the other way was all power. Leaner without addressing timing can cause knock. So a AP base mapping guy could draw a line between a dropin filter and knock... on an X.

However....

The RalliArt stock air box is a totally different design compared to the X. I do not see an AFR change on RalliArts with dropin filters. The air turns a corner after passing through the filter so the filter has less effect on how the airflow hits the airflow meter.

I respectfully call shenanigans on the "need a retune on a RalliArt with a dropin filter" claim. Take it back or prove it :-)

Mike W

Blaze
08-29-2011, 11:07 PM
We snapped several pix back at MOD this year and sent them over to our friends at REV SPEED Magazine.* They ran a two page article featuring the July event which is on stands now.*



http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/cover~0.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/page2~0.jpg

Blaze
10-02-2011, 07:26 PM
Today I swapped out the ARC upper IC pipe for a new titanium upper intercooler pipe, courtesy of Tomei Powered. http://www.tomei-p.co.jp/_2003web-catalogue/e173_intakepipe.html
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6506.jpg

The titanium upper IC pipe is evo X specific, and will not fit the OEM ralliart, unless you've performed an exo X FMIC swap. That's a pretty common mod here, so I figure some of you might be interested in seeing this product. Unpacked the kit includes the titanium pipe, new couples and heavy duty clamps. The clamps have extra teeth, so they grip better and have a lower probability of stripping. I like these better then OEM and better then T-Bolt clamps. RRE normally stocks these if anyone needs them.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6509.jpg

The pipe is the same size as the current ARC unit.* The only sig difference is one is titanium and the other was aluminum. The titanium has better heat soak properties AND a super cool JDM badge. It's lighter too and this certainly will lower the cars center of gravity and make it handle twice as well. ;)
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6513.jpg

Blaze
10-02-2011, 07:28 PM
I took a few minutes to polish the OEM intercooler pipe. Free bling.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6515.jpg

Final Install.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6518.jpg

The pip sits very close to the aluminum shroud.* So I spent some time tweaking the way the pipe sat.
I opted to run a layer of felt along the bevel of the shroud, just to make sure it doesn't vibrate it's way into contacting the pipe.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6520.jpg

BravoZero
10-03-2011, 05:19 AM
Looks great!

wwralliart77
10-03-2011, 10:24 AM
We snapped several pix back at MOD this year and sent them over to our friends at REV SPEED Magazine.* They ran a two page article featuring the July event which is on stands now.*

^ Haha nice! My RA is in one of the pics :D

Livefast
10-09-2011, 11:53 AM
Those seats are like nail to head. Like those a lot!

Blaze
10-09-2011, 03:34 PM
Those seats are like nail to head. Like those a lot!

No way man! They're TOTALLY comfortable!
Nothing like a nail to the head I know what I'm talking about too (I'm married).

;)

Blaze
10-09-2011, 03:37 PM
This weekend we did a small aero project and commissioned a replica Ralliart wing and lip to finish off the rear of the car. I think it came out pretty good. What do you guys think?

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6522.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6521.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6524.jpg

Blaze
10-09-2011, 03:38 PM
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6529.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6537.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6539.jpg

mitsuXtwo
10-09-2011, 07:13 PM
Eh, maybe too much imo. Any progress on the custom spoiler?

Blaze
10-09-2011, 08:38 PM
Eh, maybe too much imo. Any progress on the custom spoiler?

Not really. I really prefer these now that they're installed.

At the moment, this car is not being built to race spec. It's a street build, that does not require a tremendous amount of rear downforce. Plus, the average RA owner isn't likely going to drop 1500-2000 on a Voltex wing.

This wing and rear lip can be purchased for 600 and are readily available. (I say that because the original Ralliart ones went for 1200 for both and Ralliart is currently out of business, so they aren't easy to find).

APR might be a less expensive option if you are building your car to time attack specs. Personally, I think something that big would be an eye-sore on the car, so try to do some photo-shop mock ups before you spend any money.

Scarab23
10-09-2011, 09:15 PM
i also think its too much. id leave it without it. cleaner and less rice look i think.

just my .02 though

mitsuXtwo
10-09-2011, 09:49 PM
It does need SOMETHING though. Just looks too stock. Rally car spoiler maybe? Like the one on Ken Blocks ford. Well, similar. Not that extreme though.

Blaze
10-10-2011, 12:10 AM
Maybe just the chin spoiler? Or maybe I need learn to fi d a better angle with the camera, lol.

I'll take it out to a local meet and get some "in person" feed back. :)

mangnok
10-10-2011, 03:18 AM
Did you bypass air bag light or just leave it on ?

EricS09RA
10-10-2011, 05:50 AM
I like the spoiler, looks like she's ready to rally!

Blaze
10-10-2011, 07:30 AM
Did you bypass air bag light or just leave it on ?

Well the spoiler isn't connected to the SRS system, so I'm guessing you're asking about the seats or steering wheel? :D

I used a BOSS/WorkBell short hub which includes a jumper wire w/2.5 amp fuse that defeats the airbag light.

The seats, however, did not include a jumper wire, so the SRS lamp is currently on. There IS a thread on EvoM on how to defeat this (neatly). I just haven't gotten around to it. (I don't drive the car much, so the light doesn't bother me)

Blaze
10-10-2011, 07:32 AM
http://www.rallyinnovations.com/images/logo.gif

HTTP://RALLYINNOVATIONS.COM

This past weekend, I met up with John from Rally Innovations to install their harness bar applicable to the Evolution X and Ralliarts.

The bar is fairly straight forward.* It's made from steal with brass i-bolt fittings.* The fittings mount to a bracket (included) just behind the seat belt on the B-pillar.* Installation requires the removal of four interior trim pieces (two on each side) and you will need to make an incision on the upper trim to accommodate the fittings.*

Once installed, everything fits back together flush with no further modification of the interior required.

Pros:
-* Excellent fitment.* This isn't something that requires a lot of measuring and re-measuring.* All the bolts and holes line up on the first time.
-* Harness loops.* I really like that this bar has looks to hold your harnesses in place.
-* The material quality is excellent.
-* The bar can be ordering in a variety of colors
-* You can slide your seat back all the way once installed.

Cons:
-* Really no cons to this, unless you're supper bad at cutting the plastic.*

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6542.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/BlazeGT4/Ralliart/IMG_6550.jpg

BravoZero
10-10-2011, 08:07 AM
Nice... so what exactly does this bar help with? I would imagine chassis flex and stability.

wwralliart77
10-10-2011, 09:30 AM
Nice... so what exactly does this bar help with? I would imagine chassis flex and stability.

I think it's only purpose is to allow for the use of a harness type seat belt.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Bucket_seat_with_Schroth_six-point_harness_in_a_2010_Porsche_997_GT3_RS_3.8.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/134649054_cc51edf286_o.jpg

Livefast
10-10-2011, 10:24 AM
No way man! They're TOTALLY comfortable!
Nothing like a nail to the head I know what I'm talking about too (I'm married).

;)

:D I was almost 100% sure that i will be misunderstanded wrong,if i write like this.But want to put it anyway..... It´s one
expression here in Finland what i just converted to english.And it just lost point....
What i mean whit that "nail to head" expression is that those are like perfect to your car! :)

Blaze
10-10-2011, 11:12 AM
:D I was almost 100% sure that i will be misunderstanded wrong,if i write like this.But want to put it anyway..... It´s one
expression here in Finland what i just converted to english.And it just lost point....
What i mean whit that "nail to head" expression is that those are like perfect to your car! :)


I knew what you meant. I was just giving you a hard time.
In the US, we have the similar expression: "Hitting the nail on the head."

Jackal
10-10-2011, 08:37 PM
LOL ! Love it Lost in translation at it's funniest. I want more he he he.

susafuss
10-10-2011, 08:53 PM
I always love to see updates on your ride dude! I don't care what anyone says about the spoiler i like it think it looks good and is functional, also love the harness bar was thinking of getting the same one.


Also i see you ended up going with some quick disconnects for the bumper, any reason you went that route? Either way looks good i have done that on a couple of cars due to how low they were and cause i was always working on them lol

Blaze
10-11-2011, 10:26 AM
Also i see you ended up going with some quick disconnects for the bumper, any reason you went that route?

Yes. I don't know if I covered that a few pages back or not.

There are a few reasons for this, but let me start by stating that if you convert the front of your car to an evo OEM or aftermarket bumper, buy OEM metal fenders. Seibon and VIS quality is poor and you can end up with problems later on.

When the body shop installed everything, they neglected to use Evo snap brackes for the fenders/bumper. As a result, the bumper did not fit flush. So they opted to shave both the backet AND the bumper attach points down. This caused a number of issues that ultimately lead me to install the quick release brackets.

I'm debating if I should leave them polished to accent the headlights, or paint them flat black to match the wheels. It's kind of a toss up.

BravoZero
10-11-2011, 10:48 AM
Yes. I don't know if I covered that a few pages back or not.

There are a few reasons for this, but let me start by stating that if you convert the front of your car to an evo OEM or aftermarket bumper, buy OEM metal fenders. Seibon and VIS quality is poor and you can end up with problems later on.

When the body shop installed everything, they neglected to use Evo snap brackes for the fenders/bumper. As a result, the bumper did not fit flush. So they opted to shave both the backet AND the bumper attach points down. This caused a number of issues that ultimately lead me to install the quick release brackets.

I'm debating if I should leave them polished to accent the headlights, or paint them flat black to match the wheels. It's kind of a toss up.

I would do them in black or paint match them blue.

Mkid
10-11-2011, 12:28 PM
quick photoshop to make them black

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2404/blazeblackclips.jpg

jRox
10-13-2011, 10:06 AM
While we love to see updates on your sportback, and since you seem to check your thread often, can you please address the moderator situation and give MTZL privileges to actually moderate the forums?

TheBlackBeast
10-13-2011, 11:35 AM
Yeah, me too!!!

No mod powers SUX!!!

Blaze
10-15-2011, 12:06 PM
While we love to see updates on your sportback, and since you seem to check your thread often, can you please address the moderator situation and give MTZL privileges to actually moderate the forums?

This is currently being addressed by Rob the primary Admin and one of the site owners. I can move the core moderators into a SUPER security group which will provide all of the functions they need this weekend. I just need to run it by Rob or Dino first.

J