View Full Version : No more Lancers, Subi's or Speed 3's
Polaris
07-13-2013, 04:34 PM
No point this thread other than seeing what everyone you would realistically pick if there were no more Lancers, Subi's or Speed 3's.
Being a rally fan, I'd pick up an older Audi Quattro or definitely look in putting together a Ford RS200 kit car (About the same as our Ralliart's depending on packages). They aren't the most luxurious cars but I don't think you'd ever not have fun in them.
...In a perfect world I go to the Aston dealership next to do me and pick up a V12 Vantage (Okay, so that isn't realistic)
RalliNurse
07-13-2013, 06:48 PM
Hmmm...interesting...
My other choice would be a Dart...I test drove it with my uncle...neat lil car...reminded me my old 2000 Neon...
iralli_iskustvo
07-14-2013, 01:53 AM
No point this thread other than seeing what everyone you would realistically pick if there were no more Lancers, Subi's or Speed 3's.
Being a rally fan, I'd pick up an older Audi Quattro or definitely look in putting together a Ford RS200 kit car (About the same as our Ralliart's depending on packages). They aren't the most luxurious cars but I don't think you'd ever not have fun in them.
...In a perfect world I go to the Aston dealership next to do me and pick up a V12 Vantage (Okay, so that isn't realistic)
Ford? Ouch I wouldn't touch anything that has to do with Ford especially the modern Ford lol unless its muscle car classics. I would go with old school Lancia Delta.
And in a perfect world that I wish was a reality I would gladly take Mclaren mp4-12c!
OverCorrupt
07-14-2013, 05:50 PM
Honestly theres many cars im looking at purchasing as it is =P but if you were talking about replacing mine with something similar as in sporty sedan then i would probably go with an Acura TL, Although im loving all of the new acura's. Prolly choose one with their SH-AWD. the new IS looks incredible but seems to lack the speed. Hard to find something in our current price range with the closeness to power.
Skyline Fever
08-18-2013, 12:33 PM
I have wanted a Nissan GT-R since 1999, but there is no way I could afford that.
I suppose I would get a VW GTI or Jetta GLI.
NFSLancerRA
08-18-2013, 01:45 PM
350Z NISMO or CTS-V
iralli_iskustvo
08-18-2013, 03:36 PM
350Z NISMO or CTS-V
I love CTS-V, they look very proper. Not a fan of 350z though.
Does this count? Been wanting one for years....
http://carphotos3.cardomain.com/images/0015/01/89/15491098_large.jpg
Napius
08-18-2013, 04:02 PM
Definitely a Scion FR-S. It's really the only other car in that price range that I have any interest in. I figured it would be my next car if anything were to happen to my Ralliart, God forbid. Unfortunately, my brother just got one and changed his color choice at the last second to the color I'd want too. So then I'd have an identical car -_-
NFSLancerRA
08-18-2013, 05:44 PM
I love CTS-V, they look very proper. Not a fan of 350z though.
The TRUE NISMO 350Z had a few things that you will never see again on a car within grenade range of its price tag. It is for that reason that I would have one.
I agree with the above poster, though. I like the FR-S as well. We have one locally that is currently supercharged but is going to be turbocharged (this week, I think). After that happens, I will make my final decision. The motor is unusually strong with that one. There are still a few things to work out, but the F-series motor seems to be getting some love.
iralli_iskustvo
08-18-2013, 09:50 PM
The TRUE NISMO 350Z had a few things that you will never see again on a car within grenade range of its price tag. It is for that reason that I would have one.
I agree with the above poster, though. I like the FR-S as well. We have one locally that is currently supercharged but is going to be turbocharged (this week, I think). After that happens, I will make my final decision. The motor is unusually strong with that one. There are still a few things to work out, but the F-series motor seems to be getting some love.
True, so is s2000 in the same range for the price tag. I love a good ol honda.
If they had FR-S AWD option that would be amazing. That car would have more potential and be fun to drive.
I cant believe BRZ is not AWD.
AWD option would cost more, so what make it more fun.
True, so is s2000 in the same range for the price tag. I love a good ol honda.
If they had FR-S AWD option that would be amazing. That car would have more potential and be fun to drive.
I cant believe BRZ is not AWD.
AWD option would cost more, so what make it more fun.
It not only would cost more, but it would unfortunately negatively affect the balance of that car. If you have seen one, the only way they could get an AWD version is to raise the engine and throw off the balance of the entire car. That isn't the purpose behind them. People thinking they can get one of those cars and make them "mad fast" should REALLY look in to something else. I have a friend that owns a local shop, and he just put 4k worth of supercharger on their shop car to get a neck cranking 218 RWHP :-/. Those cars are purpose built handling machines, and they do that job well. Toyota and Subie didn't want to sacrifice balance and the low center of gravity for power. I would LOVE to have one too, but I will never own a NA car to be my "mod car".
NFSLancerRA
08-19-2013, 07:07 AM
People thinking they can get one of those cars and make them "mad fast" should REALLY look in to something else. I have a friend that owns a local shop, and he just put 4k worth of supercharger on their shop car to get a neck cranking 218 RWHP :-/.
Really, because the one locally made 360 WHP with the supercharger, and he wasn't happy with that. The motor can take some serious abuse, or so it seems. The block appears to have been designed to exist in three configurations: N/A, EFI boosted, and DI boosted. Two of those configurations are already on the market (boosted gas, and N/A). It appears that the next iteration of the GT86 will be an AWD diesel with the 16:1 compression of other Subaru diesels. The FB20 motor exists in Japan and elsewhere in Impreza models, which is a motor built for boost. AFAIK, the FA20 and FB20 share the same block, which means that only the internals are different. I would be willing to bet that the FA20 has the same limitations as the 4B11T, which means that a build would have to take place at the same point on both cars. The existence of the FB20 is a game changer, from the electronics side of things. Therefore, I would argue that the GT86 platform is actually ideal for those who are going for the same power as an Evolution but want the fun of a RWD platform. I don't think that that car is as tricky to boost as was once thought.
That being said, I am not sure that I ever want to deal with the hassle of making tremendously more power than came stock on my next vehicle. It is for that reason that the CTS-V would be a good choice for me.
BravoZero
08-19-2013, 07:30 AM
I'd pick up your mom and ride her instead. Does that count?
:rolleyes:
Really, because the one locally made 360 WHP with the supercharger, and he wasn't happy with that. The motor can take some serious abuse, or so it seems. The block appears to have been designed to exist in three configurations: N/A, EFI boosted, and DI boosted. Two of those configurations are already on the market (boosted gas, and N/A). It appears that the next iteration of the GT86 will be an AWD diesel with the 16:1 compression of other Subaru diesels. The FB20 motor exists in Japan and elsewhere in Impreza models, which is a motor built for boost. AFAIK, the FA20 and FB20 share the same block, which means that only the internals are different. I would be willing to bet that the FA20 has the same limitations as the 4B11T, which means that a build would have to take place at the same point on both cars. The existence of the FB20 is a game changer, from the electronics side of things. Therefore, I would argue that the GT86 platform is actually ideal for those who are going for the same power as an Evolution but want the fun of a RWD platform. I don't think that that car is as tricky to boost as was once thought.
That being said, I am not sure that I ever want to deal with the hassle of making tremendously more power than came stock on my next vehicle. It is for that reason that the CTS-V would be a good choice for me.
Maybe I didn't convey my main point. Those engines are pretty capable, all things considered. I was saying that a simple, lightweight power adder cost 4K, and netted, with other bolt ons, 218 RWHP. I agree that the engine can most likely handle a good deal more, but at the cost of throwing the balance of the car completely off. That car was designed for handling, not straight lines. You could , with enough money, make those things deadly fast in the 1/4. But you would have inherently added huge costs, and weight in the front end, defeating the entire purpose of that car. It just reminds me of the people who put LS1s in the the miatas, neutering the true beauty of the car.
I'd pick up your mom and ride her instead. Does that count?
:rolleyes:
:eek:
Dude, you could have said DRIVE her. Maybe it's just me, but when I think of a dude RIDING a chick..........
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llzu8tRQkq1qaq4fco1_500.gif
iralli_iskustvo
08-19-2013, 12:21 PM
Really, because the one locally made 360 WHP with the supercharger, and he wasn't happy with that. The motor can take some serious abuse, or so it seems. The block appears to have been designed to exist in three configurations: N/A, EFI boosted, and DI boosted. Two of those configurations are already on the market (boosted gas, and N/A). It appears that the next iteration of the GT86 will be an AWD diesel with the 16:1 compression of other Subaru diesels. The FB20 motor exists in Japan and elsewhere in Impreza models, which is a motor built for boost. AFAIK, the FA20 and FB20 share the same block, which means that only the internals are different. I would be willing to bet that the FA20 has the same limitations as the 4B11T, which means that a build would have to take place at the same point on both cars. The existence of the FB20 is a game changer, from the electronics side of things. Therefore, I would argue that the GT86 platform is actually ideal for those who are going for the same power as an Evolution but want the fun of a RWD platform. I don't think that that car is as tricky to boost as was once thought.
That being said, I am not sure that I ever want to deal with the hassle of making tremendously more power than came stock on my next vehicle. It is for that reason that the CTS-V would be a good choice for me.
Interesting. Are you getting CTS-V possibly?
NFSLancerRA
08-19-2013, 03:31 PM
Maybe I didn't convey my main point. Those engines are pretty capable, all things considered. I was saying that a simple, lightweight power adder cost 4K, and netted, with other bolt ons, 218 RWHP. I agree that the engine can most likely handle a good deal more, but at the cost of throwing the balance of the car completely off. That car was designed for handling, not straight lines. You could , with enough money, make those things deadly fast in the 1/4. But you would have inherently added huge costs, and weight in the front end, defeating the entire purpose of that car. It just reminds me of the people who put LS1s in the the miatas, neutering the true beauty of the car.
Valid points. I misunderstood what you were getting at.
$4k may not be necessary given time. I hate that the Impreza manifolds don't quite work, but such is life.
NFSLancerRA
08-19-2013, 03:35 PM
Interesting. Are you getting CTS-V possibly?
I have been looking for one for a few months just out of curiosity. I have yet to find one that I would be happy with, as I have a few very specific requirements. I have also been kicking around the idea of getting a CL600 Benz. A friend of mine in NC is a world expert on those (he has 3 of them). If I still lived up there, it would be top of the list. People think that I am crazy, but I promise that one test drive in a built CL600 will blow your mind. I guess it is one of those "you have to see it to believe it" kind of things.
mangnok
08-19-2013, 06:52 PM
Cla amg awd :)
iralli_iskustvo
08-19-2013, 08:03 PM
It not only would cost more, but it would unfortunately negatively affect the balance of that car. If you have seen one, the only way they could get an AWD version is to raise the engine and throw off the balance of the entire car. That isn't the purpose behind them. People thinking they can get one of those cars and make them "mad fast" should REALLY look in to something else. I have a friend that owns a local shop, and he just put 4k worth of supercharger on their shop car to get a neck cranking 218 RWHP :-/. Those cars are purpose built handling machines, and they do that job well. Toyota and Subie didn't want to sacrifice balance and the low center of gravity for power. I would LOVE to have one too, but I will never own a NA car to be my "mod car".
I know it would cost more. Thats no brainer.
I still believe Subaru BRZ should have went with AWD option to be available as well for the customers who have love for the AWD system on a coupe car.
BravoZero
08-20-2013, 05:06 AM
:eek:
Dude, you could have said DRIVE her. Maybe it's just me, but when I think of a dude RIDING a chick..........
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llzu8tRQkq1qaq4fco1_500.gif
Yo, it's OT. Intellect not needed in this section, get over it.
Yo, it's OT. Intellect not needed in this section, get over it.
Umm yo, "you mad bro"?? Pretty sure you wanting to ride Polaris' mom isn't on topic at all. It was a joke. Kinda like yours was, but funny. If intellect isn't needed, then 12 year old intellect is definitely not needed. Not hatin'. I couldn't care less what you ride on in your free time.
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22790809.jpg
Anyways...
The 2015 Audi S3 looks like its going to be a pretty cool little car.
deprydation
08-20-2013, 08:56 AM
I'm with Mangnok.
CLA AMG AWD. Hands down. Highest specific power output of any 4cyl on the market. Stock.
Can't wait til they do a CLA AMG Black...
I'm with Mangnok.
CLA AMG AWD. Hands down. Highest specific power output of any 4cyl on the market. Stock.
Can't wait til they do a CLA AMG Black...
The CLA is pretty bad a$$, but I don't think people who would buy a RA, Speed3 or WRX could afford that car at almost 50k. Love the styling, though. It would be a tough choice if I had 50k lying around. Might go gently used GTR at that point.
mangnok
08-20-2013, 10:10 AM
The CLA is pretty bad a$$, but I don't think people who would buy a RA, Speed3 or WRX could afford that car at almost 50k. Love the styling, though. It would be a tough choice if I had 50k lying around. Might go gently used GTR at that point.
I can lease Benz that cost $50k I can do $300/month 2 yrs contract 3k down (employee deal ). :D
mangnok
08-20-2013, 10:12 AM
Right now I'm leasing Benz c250im put down $1500 I paid $298 /m
I can lease Benz that cost $50k I can do $300/month 2 yrs contract 3k down (employee deal ). :D
You, sir, are one lucky duck.
mangnok
08-20-2013, 02:08 PM
You, sir, are one lucky duck.
I can get you guys those good deal too cuz my best friend's uncle he a general manager at Keyes Mercedes that's why I got that deal
blink34
03-20-2014, 10:01 AM
Without those cars i pretty much wouldnt go with a new car, i would go old. Dream list would be a 96 Supra, 95 RX-7, 3000gt vr4, or a NSX.. and of course R34 Skyline.. but thats the all-star line up which i can never afford..
So in real life probably end up with a 1G Eclipse GSX or Talon TSI (Got to love the 4g63), or maybe go with a 1991 CRX with an engine swap something about that look i just love.
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