Cobb Accessport Released!

[jRox]

http://www.cobbtuning.com/info/?id=5081

So who's getting one? :p

[Ralliart26]

thought about it ive been looking at it not sure if im sold. its quite alot of money!! maybe once they shoot out a few more maps like they have for the evos it might change my mind:p

[Blaze]

I've currently having this tested on my car. The initial firmware met with some hic-ups and the car could not be flashed. The most recently released seems to be working very well.

I've had two maps loaded on the car for a stage 1 and 2. Stage two reportedly made very good power around 9PM last night. I'll post some numbers later when the tuner wakes up.

Blaze

[justin81]

I will be getting this in March if everything goes to plan

[OVNI]

I've currently having this tested on my car. The initial firmware met with some hic-ups and the car could not be flashed. The most recently released seems to be working very well.

I've had two maps loaded on the car for a stage 1 and 2. Stage two reportedly made very good power around 9PM last night. I'll post some numbers later when the tuner wakes up.

Blaze

Please keep us posted!!:D

[Ladogaboy]

Well, with a Cobb AP, there is no need to try and find a backlogged Tactrix cable. :p

[MikeRA87]

Is this product simple and efficent to use?

[TheBlackBeast]

Other than the ability to reflash your ECU and the valet/anti-start features, I'm curious to know how this differs from the REV product. It seems that it runs for twice as much as REV (not including the cost of an iphone or ipod touch).
http://www.clubralliart.com/showthread.php?t=338

[Blaze]

We left the Ralliart with HB Speed to test the new firmware for COBB. Initially there was an issue where Jon could not load the new maps. A day later, COBB sent out a revision and Jon was off and running. Over the next week, HB established stage 1 and 2 base maps for the car.

The graph below represents a the factory tune compared to stage 2. The car was stock with the exception a test pipe (for off road use only). So the gains are about 45 peak WHP and 57 TQ. Not bad for 91 octane and a "stock car" and pretty amazing for just base maps.


http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10569/graph.php.jpg


EDIT: This tune was done without a boost pill.

Also, these are the maps that will be available to the public either through COBB, or you can have one tailored to your needs by HB Speed.

[MikeW-RRE]

Well, with a Cobb AP, there is no need to try and find a backlogged Tactrix cable. :p


I have two Openport 2.0 cables in stock. Tactrix.com has them in stock also.

In what ways is the Cobb system better than the open source stuff? Why did you decide to go with it? Does it make more power?

Compared to the $180ish shipped Openport 2.0 cable, $25 download for the EVOScan logging software, free ECUFlash software and free basemaps from Bryan @ GST... how do the economics vs. HP stack up between the two tuning options?

Mike W

[Tre]

i guess if someone doesn't own a portable computer. the cobb unit sounds about right if you factor in the cost of a laptop + tactrix cable.

but i totally see what your saying mike. its a lot of money vs the tactrix cable/opensource for similar results.

what will sell those is if they have more maps available for different tuning levels.

[MikeW-RRE]

Yeah, if you were in the middle of Nebraska the AP makes more sense. But Blaze is in the center of the Car Universe (So Cal) and I am pretty sure he has a lap top less than 10 years old. I was wondering why he went with this.

I was thinking for warranty purposes maybe? But I think the MMSA Warranty ECU detectives would still be able to see evidence of the AP flash if they can see others.

Mike W

[HB Speed]

I made these maps for Cobb
these are the OTS maps that will be available from cobb

Plug and play!

i did a boost pill tonight as well

here are the results!
http://hbspeed.com/dyno/graph.php?gb=0&hp=1&torque=1&sl=1&sln=1&runid1=280&rgb1=000000255&runid2=278&rgb2=204000000&runid3=286&rgb3=000153000

[HB Speed]

oh, and the powers that be cannot tell if a car has been flashed with AP, FYI

[MikeW-RRE]

oh, and the powers that be cannot tell if a car has been flashed with AP, FYI

_That_ would be cool!

Mike W

[HB Speed]

_That_ would be cool!

Mike W

Yea, it helps ;)

[jRox]

oh, and the powers that be cannot tell if a car has been flashed with AP, FYI

So are you saying with the AP, the flash can not be detected? Whereas with the Tatrix cable and any other ECU flash can be detected?

[Blaze]

Not to go off topic, but I'm just so very happy people are coming to terms with what Mike said.

... But Blaze is ... the center of the Car Universe ....

....

Mike W

Thank you, Mike! The prophecy of my ego has not been fulfilled!

:D:D:D:D

[OVNI]

I made these maps for Cobb
these are the OTS maps that will be available from cobb

Plug and play!

i did a boost pill tonight as well

here are the results!


Can I use Stage 2+ with this modifications?
- Ultimate Racing Intake
- Ultimate Racing Catback Exhaust
- Ultimate Racing Test Pipe

[HB Speed]

These maps are for the STOCK INTAKE AND FILTER ONLY

if i get a UR intake i can make staged maps for it anyone want to donate one?

[Tre]

i'd say drop in filter and TBE OTS map would be the bee's knee's :cool:

[MikeRA87]

I can still use stage one with the hi flow cat right?

[Sakura09]

I have an AP ver2 for my hybrid EJ257/EJ205(H) swapped 2003 Impreza and it is convenient as hell when it comes to tuning, data-logging, etc... plus the E-readouts on AFR, Oil press, etc are nice too.

Not trying to tout the product as the end all be all in tuning products but it is user friendly, great customer support from COBB, and will adapt to any change you make to your car so long as you know how to use the tuning software associated with COBB's AP.

The OTS maps to my knowledge use non-specific relatively conservative tunes to get the power numbers they create. This is so that person X in WA doesn't get Det or CEL when person Y in SOCAL is perfectly fine. Or the other way around. If you pro-tune with an AP you can achieve better numbers and still retain the convenience of the AP based on your mods. However, you should not rely on the OTS maps to further cover any mods you have made beyond what the OTS map calls for. IE TBE + BOV + FMIC will not have their full potential realized with the AP stg 1 OTS map it may even make the car slower. Just my $.02

P.S. I'm a RA nublette but been in the Subaru world for some time now so if I missed the mark completely with this one /sorry in advance :D

[2010 Rallihead Sportback]

k right now i have a 3in straight to magnaflow and im getting a intake soon, evo intercooler, and EvoX turbo later, but need to know should i get a custom street tune for my car when I get the AP while i just have the magnaflow and intake in or should i wait and get everything installed and street tune it. Also do i need to street tune it or will AP ever release maps with this configuration intake, Evo intercooler, and EvoX turbo installed.

[Karnage541]

These maps are for the STOCK INTAKE AND FILTER ONLY

if i get a UR intake i can make staged maps for it anyone want to donate one?

I have a catback and a k&n drop in air filer, can i still use it even tho its for stock filter?

[Xorro]

I'm not familiar with the products mentioned in this post, but could someone tell me if there is a plug'n'play product, which I can remove when the car goes to the dealer. I'm still under warranty and I wouldn't want them to detect any tuning that has gone one.

I am assuming that the Cobb product would meet my requirements?

Thanks.

[Ralliart23]

yeah i was just in the store today checking one of these bad boys out and came home to post a forum asking some questions but luckily there was already a forum. im quite new to the computer tunning, im just wondering if something like this is really hard on your engine? i just dont understand why if such a large horsepower gain can be attained from something like this, why dont they just come stock with the horsepower already upped from the factory. makes no sense to me why a car company would advertise the car at 240 hp, when you can get it to 270 by the push of a button

[hackerrei]

Well 2 reasons I can think of are
1 the RA is made to be a mini evo that is good on MPG and can be priced for people that want a evo but can not afford it.
2 If they made the power that high out the door then there would be no reason to buy a evo if the cheaper RA has around the same power it's all about making money.

That is what subaru has been doing with the WRX and the STI for a while and mitsu is just playing keep up and to also boost sales from the group of people that they know want some thing like the evo but better to drive day to day and is at a more common cost.

I would say RA owners are just lucky it is all wheel drive and turbo and not just front wheel like in the past with maby a turbo.

Thats all I can realy think of right now.