Oh yeah Bertybrate, You were talking about the Evo8/9 Recaros not long ago huh. I found these on ebay there were like 33 people biding on it and 50 something people watching them. At the last minute of the auction i bidded $305 from $265. The auction then ended at $292. Shipping would have been a lot so I picked them up about 2 hrs away from my place.