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Old 01-20-2012, 01:47 AM
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Use the products mentioned in this thread at your own risk. The use of these products will void your factory warranty.
These fluids have been proven to work, but some may not wish to risk their factory warranty.


Diaqueen SSTF-1 is sold by Mitsu dealers in the US at a cost of around $250.

Castrol BOT-341 & Castrol Transmax Dual, is sold by Mitsu dealers in Europe for around $120.


BOT-341 is only available in Europe and is almost impossible to find unless you're a dealer there.

"amir008" on the other forum did some research and found that Ravenol makes BOT-341 & Transmax Dual for Castrol in Germany and they state on their site that the SSTF-1 fluid is the same fluid that Ford, Chrysler and Volvo use in their DCT's.
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Bryan has stated a billion times on every forum but everyone seems to overlook:
Pentosin makes OEM fluid for Audi/Volkswagen DSG's (TT, A3, Jetta, GTI, R32), Porsche's PDK (911, Carrera S, Carrera 4S; Boxster S, Cayman S) and BMW's DCT (M3/135i).
You can use Pentosin FFL-2 (Audi/VW DSG) as an OEM replacement and FFL-3 (Porsche PDK) and FFL-4 (BMW M3 DCT) in SST's that get beat on more (Track/Auto Cross/Strip).

You can get this stuff for about half of what SSTF-1 costs; and GTR owners have been using FFL-4 for quite a while and the general consensus is that the tranny shifts smoother and isn't as chattery.

Remember, you will need to order at least 7-8 bottles.
This is sold by the liter.

You can order FFL-2 from here:
US Customers: Pentosin FFL-2 US Customers
Canadian Customers: Pentosin FFL-2 Canadian Customers

You can order Pentosin FFL-3 from here:
Pentosin FFL-3

You can order FFL-4 from here:
Pentosin FFL-4

It's a little more expensive but you can also go to your local VW, Audi, Volvo, Porsche or BMW dealership for the respective fluids if you don't want to wait for shipping.

A BIG thank you to Eric (NFSLancerRA) for adding tons of extra info to this thread.

Key Points
  • Pentosin makes FFL-2, FFL-3 and FFL-4.
  • Most automakers and legitimate mechanics use Pentosin fluids and usually just relabel them.
  • FFL-2 and FFL-3 have been proven to be safe to use in the TC-SST.
  • FFL-2, SSP Pro Gold*, and Audi/VW DSG fluid are the exact same thing.
  • FFL-3 is the same as Porsche's PDK fluid.
  • FFL-4 is the same as BMW's DCT fluid.
  • You need to buy a MINIMUM of 7 liters of fluid.
  • The car will shift smoother, especially on cold starts; and if tuned properly, it should be able to handle more power.
Let me know if there is anything else I should add to the list.

*NFSLancerRA Disclaimer: I do not have inside knowledge of the parts listed on the SSP website. All claims made were based off of inferences (such as color and viscosity similarities).
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Old 01-20-2012, 06:16 AM
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Very interesting... I wonder if it will work perfectly with our SST's compared to the stuff we get from the dealership.

Definitely let us know how it goes, maybe Bryan can chime in on this.
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:17 AM
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Any solution to being bent over a barrel and taking it would be a great help to the cost of running the car.

$tealerships here in Canada charge 2x the US price for everything.
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Great info Kyle. I am willing to test it out at the next fluid change.
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In for results! I highly doubt there will be any negative effects... SSP's gold and red fluid is made for mitsubishis, VW's and GTR's I think.. I already had plans of ordering FFL-2, Any reason you went with FFL-3 instead?
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In for results! I highly doubt there will be any negative effects... SSP's gold and red fluid is made for mitsubishis, VW's and GTR's I think.. I already had plans of ordering FFL-2, Any reason you went with FFL-3 instead?
EDIT (February 9th, 2012): I returned the FFL-3 and I'm getting FFL-2 instead.
More accurate info posted further in the thread.

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Can't wait to see if FFL-2 is OK to use with this tranny. I need to do a fluid change baaaadddd but can't afford the OEM stuff...
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Can't wait to see if FFL-2 is OK to use with this tranny. I need to do a fluid change baaaadddd but can't afford the OEM stuff...
although they are unable to chime in here, i know of someone who has been using FFL2 for some time now with no problems (in fact, they see no need to switch back to diaqueen)
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Old 02-07-2012, 07:36 PM
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ok so there are slight differences in the specifications.. its hard to tell what those differences mean in real world application. they do not deviate dramatically..

ffl2
http://www.pentosin.de/flexxtrader/d...20FFL-2_GB.pdf

diaqueen:
http://msdspds.castrol.com/ussds/amersdsf.nsf/Files/4418CAB422531B298025795600647C43/$File/074926BOT%20341.pdf


i would summarize the differences but i am busy atm. someone else be a doll?
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This is great info. I find it also interesting the Ford Powershift transmission uses the exact same filter and housing as we do. I have found a few images of the ford one, and it is exact to ours. Again, only available in Europe and seems to cost around 40$. Seems fishy to me, exact same product, but 1/3 price. Might drop by Ford dealership and ask to see their filters for their powershift cars, pretty sure the new fiesta has it.

http://www.fordownersclubmalaysia.co...php?f=29&t=303

http://clubcj.net/viewtopic.php?t=8298
http://ford.sklep.pl/pl,product,3776...egow,ford.html
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