
04-27-2012, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rm_you
Ah it's ok anyway, I found the post on the Cobb forums that has newer maps for the Ralliart. Since I have the AccessPort already, it's a piece of cake to use those. They even have one for the same AEM intake, so I should be completely set -- I'll flash to Stage 2 once I get everything but the intake on it, then add the intake when it arrives and switch to the Stage 2 + AEM Intake map. I'll update when I have more stuff attached and have actually tried out one of those tunes.
Edit: OK, put the catback on it tonight, sounds SO much more like a real car now! The HFC gets here tomorrow from Cobb (did I mention that I decided to switch yet again, no longer getting the cat from UR, Cobb now). May not have time to put it on until Sunday or later. 
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Nice!
Yeah UR is in canada, which is nice for us up here. But summit racing has some decent parts with free shipping too. Sometimes I wish I lived in the US to get deals on free shipping.
Also, here is a question for everyone: Why do some retailers not ship to Canada when we are pretty much right across the border. They would get a ton more sales if they opened up their shipping routes.
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04-27-2012, 09:00 AM
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Lol yeah, I am in San Antonio, so Cobb is like a one hour drive from me. Kinda handy, free one day shipping.
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05-02-2012, 06:53 AM
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Ok, quick update:
Things I had already done:
* Replaced the catback exhaust with the AMS single tip exhaust
Things I did last night:
* Replaced the stock intake with the AEM intake
* Replaced the stock FMIC with the EvoX FMIC/pipes
* Replaced the stock BoV with the EvoX BoV
Things I have to do still:
* Replace the test pipe + cat with the Cobb catted test pipe
* Take the midpipe back off temporarily to have the resonator I bought welded in
* Replace the BoV piping with more appropriate pipes (it's a bit ghetto-rigged right now with the pieces of piping I had left over... you guys probably know approximately what I mean) since the cold-air pipe for the intake won't actually fit back on with the BoV piping in the way.
* Buy RPF1 wheels: http://www.amazon.com/Enkei-RPF1-Sil.../dp/B007RPQX1G (still verifying +35 is going to be enough offset)
* Profit :P
So, I have the majority of the work done already. I will provide pictures in a bit (just need to wait for the light to get a bit better and go out and take some).
I flashed the Cobb Stage 1 + AEM Intake map (from their forums) and it *sounds* like it is running ok, and felt like it was running decently when I drove it back from my friend's garage, but this morning I tried to give it a bit of gas and it seems a bit "sluggish". I'm not sure exactly, but I can get up to ~60mph without too much issue but if I slam on the gas there, I'm used to it still taking off, but it revs like normal and sounds like normal and just *doesn't* go faster, besides just a tiny bit of acceleration. I'm not 100% sure what to think of that, I will have to look around and see if I fucked up any connections or something... I managed to get it to about 72mph in the short-ish distance I was accelerating, but I feel like it should be been way faster.
Do you guys have any thoughts? Could it just be that the ECU is still learning (I had only driven it about 10 miles) and is limiting things for safety? Or, did I fuck up something in the turbo piping and I'm not getting boost? Any suggestions appreciated, I'll work on getting those pics.
Last edited by rm_you; 05-02-2012 at 07:07 AM.
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05-02-2012, 07:06 AM
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is the valve a blow off valve or a by pass valve? if its the evo x stock then its cool.
Its funny you say it seems sluggish. I recall when I first put in my evo x intercooler +pipes, it seems sluggish at first. I dont know if the car needs to learn the new pipes, but it did get faster over time or it was just me.
Do you use the mesh pipe that comes right off the turbo that goes to the intercooler or is it all hard pipe? The hard pipe will not expand like the mess giving you better response, only reason why i ask
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05-02-2012, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by crak
is the valve a blow off valve or a by pass valve? if its the evo x stock then its cool.
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It is the stock EvoX BoV, it was a direct replacement for the one that was stock on the Ralliart (looks nearly identical, except it is silver/metal instead of black/plastic).
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Originally Posted by crak
Its funny you say it seems sluggish. I recall when I first put in my evo x intercooler +pipes, it seems sluggish at first. I dont know if the car needs to learn the new pipes, but it did get faster over time or it was just me.
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Yeah, I hope so... Hoping I didn't do something wrong!
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Originally Posted by crak
Do you use the mesh pipe that comes right off the turbo that goes to the intercooler or is it all hard pipe? The hard pipe will not expand like the mess giving you better response, only reason why i ask
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I don't remember what exactly I used for that, I was working on the FMIC/LICP and my friend was working on the UICP and stuff on the top, so I think he did that bit. I'll have to look. I will get pictures in a few minutes and hopefully it will be clearer.
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05-02-2012, 07:48 AM
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it comes mesh from the stock evo x pipes. Alot of people actually upgrade to a hard pipe just for that response.
you can actually see the mesh pipe jump if you rev the engine, that's the compression building and expanding. That small jump is a fraction of the vehicle spooling to creating pressure for the throttle body. With a hard-pipe you see no jump
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05-02-2012, 08:11 AM
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Ok well, it probably doesn't matter, because I went out to take pictures and discovered that apparently I hadn't tightened the fastener on the main pipe from the intercooler to the throttle body, and it had popped off... SO YEAH. Dumb. Anyway, shoved it back on and finding a screwdriver so I can tighten it down... Should fix my problem, I think.
I blame the darkness and the late hour at which I finished working last night.
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05-02-2012, 08:12 AM
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You said Cobb AP? There's your first problem. Get rid of it, get yourself a laptop, boost pill, Tactrix cable and ECUflash, and load the GST basemap to your car instead. Razorlab has plenty of basemaps for different options, even one for a full turboback and AEM intake with boost pill.
The second thing is yes, you will notice a bit of sluggishness when first installing the X intercooler setup. Mine did that but once the computer learned to compensate for it, the sluggishness went away. Another thing that will help is getting a hard UICP, that crappy rubber piping does expand, I've seen it do it under load.
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05-02-2012, 08:36 AM
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I have seen a lot of bashing on the Cobb AP on these forums (a significant portion by *you*, in fact) but I have so far been quite pleased with my AccessPort... I was going to use the GST map and get a tactrix cable, but Cobb actually released new updated maps that supposedly work well with my kit -- and I haven't had problems so far that I can attribute to a bad map. I was even looking for a *real* good reason to switch, other than the price difference, but I couldn't find anything here besides your obvious dislike for their system. Maybe you could give me a good set of reasons to switch? I actually find the AP to be quite convenient and very simple to use, I don't have to haul my laptop around, I can flash anywhere at any time just by reaching into my glove box and grabbing the AP...
I am fairly certain my current problem is completely unrelated to the map, in fact, as I posted above -- just a dumb mistake on my part forgetting to finish tightening down a hose clamp.
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05-02-2012, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rm_you
Ok well, it probably doesn't matter, because I went out to take pictures and discovered that apparently I hadn't tightened the fastener on the main pipe from the intercooler to the throttle body, and it had popped off... SO YEAH. Dumb. Anyway, shoved it back on and finding a screwdriver so I can tighten it down... Should fix my problem, I think.
I blame the darkness and the late hour at which I finished working last night. 
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is that the reason for it giving you no power? lol, maybe you had loss of compression
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