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Originally Posted by RalliNurse
Also, it'll cost you more just to change the damn spark plugs...from what i understand (i might be wrong)...subies have to get the whole engine out just to change the damn plugs...
even though TC-SST fluid is expensive...at least there is alternatives for that...RA's TCSST is "butta-smoooth" though
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This isn't totally true.
To do the spark plugs, you don't have to pull the whole motor out to do it.
There is 2 spark plugs on each side of the motor, and they are towards the center on each side.
You do however, have to remove the airbox, half the intake and the battery.
And they are a bitch to break loose and are at an awkward angle.
It took my step brother 10 minutes to remove each plug.
The boxer motor sucks ass to do anything on.
Besides the cute (
) sound they make; the "advantages" of the Boxer aren't worth it in my opinion.
They really aren't balanced better than an inline 4 like everyone says because they have side to side movement instead of front to back movement which is even worse for balance.
Their weight distribution is better but they still understeer like poop.
The HP to $$$$ ratio is dog shit compared to the 4b11T as well.
Any modest and honest STI or WRX owner will admit this.
If you spend $2,000 on a 4B11T, you'll need around $3,500 to hit the same numbers on the Boxer.
To do pretty much any power mods, you have to remove the intercooler; and if you want an intake, you have to remove the whole intake manifold first.
And the exhaust and intake are set up horribly for flow.
There are so many turns, curves and catalytic converters to go through that the car is choked out before it even makes it to the resonator, then it still has to go through the muffler.
Everything about the motor is inconvenient and expensive.
4 cams instead of 2, 2 exhaust manifolds, twice as many exhaust components, the entire layout is terrible if you want to do any mods or maintenance to it, after market parts are expensive as hell, and the production cost of the motor to begin with is ridiculous.
The negatives easily outweigh the benefits.
Subaru's are generally more comfortable for daily driving though, minus being stick most of the time.
Subaru doesn't have a good track record on their automatics either.
If you want strictly a daily driver that is stick with light or no mods, get a WRX or if you want a little sportier feeling, an STI.
If you want a sportier daily driver (a little less comfort), Twin Clutch, a track car, or something you want to mod beyond an exhaust; get a Ralliart or Evo.
My step brother owns a '05 STI and a '11 WRX, so this is coming from personal experience or from what I've seen.